What about the 16 gauge?

Saabu said:
Yeah sorry guys I should figure out how to post pics... but i'm sure there's something on the web for those curious enough to not wait!
here's a link to some pics.

http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/s...0-4b8a-bd4c-07e91ba36b84_zps1a2fv4if.jpg.html

the barrels are soldered together, another cheapy manu method (sorry if I've offended anyone!).
i'm no shotgunner, would you say this is based on a 12ga frame?
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Only millions of double shotguns have the ribs soldered together. If you think the model 90 was a cheaply made firearm you better not buy one of the budget guns made today. The model 90 was made to a price point for a certain market share, nothing new there. While it may not have been embellished with a bunch of engraving or other features, these guns were good for many, many rounds and that is what matters. And many of these were banged around and well used. They weren't safe queens.
 
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Hmm ok appreciate that info (and my shotgun, now). Guess I should get out and try it at a gun club or somewhere!!???
How do these soldered blocks compare to a full length rib design?
A fellow at a gun show suggested polishing the receiver and then coating it with pure floor wax as a protectant/rust inhibitor...Any other techniques I should consider?
 
Saabu said:
Hmm ok appreciate that info (and my shotgun, now). Guess I should get out and try it at a gun club or somewhere!!???
How do these soldered blocks compare to a full length rib design?
A fellow at a gun show suggested polishing the receiver and then coating it with pure floor wax as a protectant/rust inhibitor...Any other techniques I should consider?
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I believe, as mentioned, the receiver will not blue very well if using the caustic hot tank method. I don't know if the slow rust bluing method would work on it or not. The cold blue method might work but it is not very durable. I would not polish the receiver to bare metal. That's looking for trouble. I'd just wax or keep the receiver oiled as is. Or if you want to improve looks you could always go a modern way such as using gun kote etc. You are kind of lucky finding a model 90 in 16 gauge.
 
Some day I'm going to buy a SxS in 16 gauge.

I've given it some thought & I desire a Pre-WWII Teutonic design with 28-30 inch Krupp steel barrels. Some degree of engraving and a natural horn material trigger guard.
Cocking indicators that you can feel on a hammerless, or just a hammer gun period.
Designed mostly for smokeless, but the option to run all brass hulls with BP loads, if I feel like it.

A typical period example of a Continental shotgun.
 
madtrapper143 said:
That old Mossberg is the slickest pump gun I have ever owned. I kind of like the top tang safety too. The Express just kind of bumps you when you pull the trigger both are a lot of fun to hunt with. I have to agree 500's in 16 don't show up often but there are lots of models 12's,37's, 1148's and 870's around. The rarest I think is the Remington 1100 in 16 bore. I had one and I let it slip away to the east coast. Have not seen one since. Oh well keep on looking....

Darryl
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Hi Darryl
I know the cranky old f'er that has your 16ga 1100 and has never even used it once
PM sent ;)
Cheers
 
It's kind of Red-Green'ish, but I heard an internet rumor that a minimag flashlight for AA batteries, can be used as an improvised 16 gauge chamber length measuring tool, with a few wraps of electrical tape.

I just took an outer diameter measurement on one of my AA flashlights and it came out to 0.714 inches.

Apparently 16 gauge once came with 2 1/2 as well as 2 9/16 inch chambers, as well as the newest modern chambers.
 
Brutus said:
Some day I'm going to buy a SxS in 16 gauge.

I've given it some thought & I desire a Pre-WWII Teutonic design with 28-30 inch Krupp steel barrels. Some degree of engraving and a natural horn material trigger guard.
Cocking indicators that you can feel on a hammerless, or just a hammer gun period.
Designed mostly for smokeless, but the option to run all brass hulls with BP loads, if I feel like it.

A typical period example of a Continental shotgun.
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Brutus, how is this...

Mid 1930's F.W. Heym 16 gauge. 29" Krupp barrels, sideclips, cocking indicators, cross bolt, Nitro proofed obviously and with a scalloped receiver and lots of engraving. Only thing not on your wish list was the horn trigger guard. LOL. On the plus side, it's in immaculate condition.

I don't say this lightly but it even handles better than my 16 gauge Sterlingworths!

 
canvasback said:
Brutus, how is this...

Mid 1930's F.W. Heym 16 gauge. 29" Krupp barrels, sideclips, cocking indicators, cross bolt, Nitro proofed obviously and with a scalloped receiver and lots of engraving. Only thing not on your wish list was the horn trigger guard. LOL. On the plus side, it's in immaculate condition.

I don't say this lightly but it even handles better than my 16 gauge Sterlingworths!

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That IS a thing of beauty indeed Canvasback!

I don't know why I have this certain bug right now, but there it is.....and your fine shotgun is a prime example of superb craftsmanship.

Please inform this novice regarding it's chamber depth?

Cheers
 
Brutus said:
That IS a thing of beauty indeed Canvasback!

I don't know why I have this certain bug right now, but there it is.....and your fine shotgun is a prime example of superb craftsmanship.

Please inform this novice regarding it's chamber depth?

Cheers
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Hi Brutus, sorry I was slow on this. Bought the gun in 2004. Chambers were 2 3/4" at that time. No chamber length marked on barrels. Gun dates to between 1920 and 1923. When I got it I was in the early stages of my affliction for old SxS so I did mess with the barrels a bit. I had the forcing cones lengthened. But only because there was lots a barrel to work with. Would not remove metal now without some overwhelmingly good reason.

Very open chokes. It competes with my single barrel Tolley as my favorite ruffed grouse gun.
 
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ohdot said:
Found a nice 16ga Remington 870 Express synthetic NIB with 28 inch barrel today. Came with 1 modified rem choke. anybody ever see any 16ga rem chokes for sale?
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Take Darryl's advice and buy the alternatives. Original 16ga rem chokes were impossible to find in canada even when these guns were reintroduced and have been discontinued in the US also for some time . I fluked my sets off gun broker but that was some years ago. To find some now would be old stock sitting but you may
I have the same 16ga express and two other models with the 16ga rem chokes fitted
Could never find a skeet 16ga rem choke however
You were some lucky to find that gun new still sitting. I tore the country apart looking for one when they came out and there was very few up this way of any of the three the express, 1100 or wingmaster 16ga reintroductions
Cheers
 
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Got all excited today when I seen a listing in the EE for winchester 16ga AA hulls for reloading. I thought it was 1970 all over then I seen it was WTB and think I should shut up now ;)
Cheers
 
I got a 16 ga Rem Choke IMP CYL off of E bay (it cost over 50 bucks due to being as they say on flea bay "RARE"). Then I got a Skeet 2 and a Imp Mod from Tru Lock to accompany the standard issue Rem Choke Mod. All throw very good patterns. I think the shortage of Rem Chokes beyond MOD was the result of more express versions being sold than Wing masters or 1100's. The Express only came with one choke and that was MOD. I did find a shop in Ontario that was selling off 16 ga Rem Chokes (they had FULL and MOD) for 5 bucks each. I did not buy any but I did refer some Remington owners to that bargain.

Darryl
 
Federal's game load hull (it is their only 16 hull for all currently produced 16 ga loads) is a good hull for reloading. The nice thing is that Federal factory loads in my area seem to be the most common. The hull has a lot of capacity and works best with 1 1/8 oz. loads and Remington wads.

Darryl
 
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