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im not sure that would rest easy with canadians, otherwise other leisure things could also be made prohibited and confiscated without compensation:
swimming pools
leisure boats, jet skis et al
motorcycles
scooters
cars with more than 200hp
high fat foods
cigarettes
down hill skis


all of these pose a higher public safety hazard and health hazards and have incurred more negligent deaths per year than firearms

Exactly. It will open the door to confiscating anything they please without any compensation, including your land which they currently pay for if they expropriate it.
 
compensation was offered when other firearms were confiscated in the past, spas 12 for example. How would they justify not paying going forward?

Why would the NDP have to justify anything? Did the high courts and the government of the UK properly justify their seizure and destroy program when the cops came knocking in the 90ies? Bad laws dont require justification. They require stupidity and arrogance not justification.
 
compensation was offered when other firearms were confiscated in the past, spas 12 for example. How would they justify not paying going forward?

You may want to ask some of the guys on here if they got compensated for their SPAS-12s. That practise really only started with the prohibition of the first generation Lever Arms Type 97a rifles a few years ago. No one I have talked to got any compensation for guns taken under C-17's prohibited weapons order# 11.

So even though there is now a precedence for compensation, there is also a precedence for confiscation with no compensation.
 
you are assuming I was not one of them.

And you are assuming my father didn't lose something to that OIC either.



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Since there are complaints on the next page of this thread getting more off topic, I'll keep the rest of my responses in this post, just so I can address a couple of things.


when this topic has come up in the past, other owners on here have been very adamant that compensation was offered in the instance of the spas 12 so I am not sure what happened in your fathers case when comparing it to my own experience and others posted on this forum.

many refused the compensation offered so as to not agree with the confiscation but that is another matter

To be fair, my dad lost an Intratec TEC-22 pistol to that OIC, so maybe it was different for them than you claim happened to SPAS-12 owners. But I can recall two CGNers who have stated in the past they weren't compensated for their SPAS-12s, among other guns they lost as well, so either they refused it, or it sounds to me more like the compensation wasn't widely offered. And as far as the TEC-22 went, since it was a registered handgun, they were very easy to track down. The letter dad got stated he had to either turn it over for destruction, or deactivate it, so in the end it was turned over. No mention of compensation.
 
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As a law abiding gun owner, if a future government should unjustly ban and confiscate non-restricted firearms I wish them every luck in finding them without an up to date registry.......
 
I don't know what you guys are smoking. If you think your going to be compensated for unjust prohibited firearms in Canada you had better think again. You have NO property rights. Therefore, the govt owes you nothing. My suggestion, bury it and pray for a gun friendly CPC majority.
 
And you are assuming my father didn't lose something to that OIC either.
when this topic has come up in the past, other owners on here have been very adamant that compensation was offered in the instance of the spas 12 so I am not sure what happened in your fathers case when comparing it to my own experience and others posted on this forum.

many refused the compensation offered so as to not agree with the confiscation but that is another matter
 
You have NO property rights.
this is true, however your post makes it sound like you think fighting for compensation is a bad idea.

I have had property (land) taken (expropriated) by the government and fought for compensation and won even though we have no property rights in canada. Just because it is firearms you think we should all sit back and let the government do as they please?
 
this is true, however your post makes it sound like you think fighting for compensation is a bad idea.

I have had property (land) taken (expropriated) by the government and fought for compensation and won even though we have no property rights in canada. Just because it is firearms you think we should all sit back and let the government do as they please?

^^^ very good point!

like wtf people!
 
this is true, however your post makes it sound like you think fighting for compensation is a bad idea.

I have had property (land) taken (expropriated) by the government and fought for compensation and won even though we have no property rights in canada. Just because it is firearms you think we should all sit back and let the government do as they please?

Did I say that? Please don't put words in my mouth, and try not to assume
 
Did I say that? Please don't put words in my mouth, and try not to assume
then what was your post about if it was not that we have no property rights and that fighting for compensation when property is taken is futile in your opinion?

I don't know what you guys are smoking. If you think your going to be compensated for unjust prohibited firearms in Canada you had better think again. You have NO property rights. Therefore, the govt owes you nothing. My suggestion, bury it and pray for a gun friendly CPC majority.

I have already fought and won against the government to be compensated for property that was taken even though we have no property rights, there is lots of case law that supports the need for the government to pay compensation regardless of our non existent property rights, Including cases regarding firearms.
 
lots of people would be hard pressed to give anything even for compensation. No compensation they will have such a minute turn in rate it would be worthless.
 
lots of people would be hard pressed to give anything even for compensation. No compensation they will have such a minute turn in rate it would be worthless.
A mass Confiscation like the one another poster hinted at that is being discussed will not rely on people willingly turning them in/over to get compliance
 
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