Please stop posting your hunting videos.
- Thread starter grumpyold
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What is positive is that these videos encourage debate and discussion. If we lose the debate, its not the fault of a video. The truth is on our side, and it doesn't stop being the truth due to someone's emotional, knee jerk reaction to an image on a computer screen. If we don't soon challenge the growing urban PETA mentality, we'll be unable to pull back from the brink. A good hunting video provides us with the opportunity to present that challenge, and explain the difference between an ethical hunt and a deplorable one, while the images on a deplorable video can be used illustrate and support our argument.
And the video's of gutshot animals or seriously wounded animals running off is a serious hindrance to the hunting community. All it takes sometimes is one of those video's to turn someone into an anti, and it wont matter how much you say it rarely happens, the problem is there are just as many video's on youtube of bad shots as there are good. They use that as their base its a 50/50 chance you are going to wound instead of kill fast an animal with the information available to them.
You have good intentions my friend and I am sure in a perfect world we all would agree with you. However in todays world of the "you hurt my feelings and I don't like it" mentality the anti's use every piece of negativity they can find to swell their ranks. They do not take violent videos as any kind of dialogue that is useful to a debate as much as ammunition that we are barbaric buffoons that need to be neutered at all costs.
Obviously the rabid anti crowd is going to find any hunting video deplorable, but if the video depicts a clean, ethical kill it is difficult for them to use it against us. The problem is that a lot of these videos don't display that kind of kill...there seem to be a lot of clowns out there who consider any hunt that concludes with a dead animal on the ground to be a huge success, something that they are proud of, regardless of how it happened. Gutshots, long protracted suffering, whatever, doesn't seem to matter to them...the animal is dead, wow, I'm a great hunter, look at me, I'm so f%^&ing proud of myself and f$&# you if you don't like it.
If you seriously think that every kill you make is so perfect, so brag-worthy that the world needs to see it...then you haven't made many. Jeez, I wonder what happens when one of these guys needs to take a dump in the woods...do the cameras roll for that too? Look at me, look at me!
If you seriously think that every kill you make is so perfect, so brag-worthy that the world needs to see it...then you haven't made many. Jeez, I wonder what happens when one of these guys needs to take a dump in the woods...do the cameras roll for that too? Look at me, look at me!
When hunting, wounding an animal is very common though... I still remember my first duck hunt... shot the duck, I was like, PERFECT SHOT... next thing I know my xfatherinlaw hands me a knife and says... ok, now go kill it... I was like... WTF?! I just shot it with a shotgun... yeah... that just knocks it out of the sky... Killing can be a messy business... just part of the job... why hide that? Look at aboriginal hunters or our ancestors... spear hunting. Like 20 people jumping on an animal to spear it to death. Or what about every national geographic video on hunter vs prey? That's pretty intense stuff... should those videos be banned? Doesn't everyone ouuu and ahhh when the lion catches a gazelle? why can't we ouu and ahh when we catch our meat? What I'm opposed to is the torture of animals.. watching some of those videos really turns my stomach...
It also seems like a lot of people against hunting or critics maybe need to step up to the plate and do a little dirty work and see where that meat on their plate comes from... I'd like to see some of these people spend a whole week out in the bush and come home with nothing, no meat... People just think that a hunter goes out gets a kill and comes home - all in a days work! and he's happy!!!!! what a jerk /s...
Also would like to see some of these vegans when they get an infestation of wild animals destroying their crops over and over again... then what... you're gonna want to shoot those SOBs...
It also seems like a lot of people against hunting or critics maybe need to step up to the plate and do a little dirty work and see where that meat on their plate comes from... I'd like to see some of these people spend a whole week out in the bush and come home with nothing, no meat... People just think that a hunter goes out gets a kill and comes home - all in a days work! and he's happy!!!!! what a jerk /s...
Also would like to see some of these vegans when they get an infestation of wild animals destroying their crops over and over again... then what... you're gonna want to shoot those SOBs...
Ar180shooter
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That's fine, just don't post a video of it on-line.
And if you do end up doing something like gut shooting a deer, hitting it in the leg, etc... maybe practice a little more before the next year...
As was suggested early on I may have not been clear with the original subject post. It appears most read between the line and got the meaning. Nothing will ever change anti's mind unless their staving to dead, at that point they'll probably kill something with a pointy stick. Fence sitter don't pay that much attention to us in general. They have no desire to view hunting shows or videos. Where it falls off the rails is when some one posts something on the net that should have never been posted. Where it turns in to a complete diaster is when some news service picks it off the net and it displayed for all to see, anti, fence sitter and hunters. You will never see a news story that shows or reports on how ethical this hunter was.
Still don't get the whole thing of displaying entire life as an open book on the Internet. Post what ever you want. Posting bad videos takes you from hero to zero in a blink and drags the rest of us down with you.
Still don't get the whole thing of displaying entire life as an open book on the Internet. Post what ever you want. Posting bad videos takes you from hero to zero in a blink and drags the rest of us down with you.
I think you were pretty clear on what you were trying to say... but same ### marriage in the USA didn't become legal by walking on eggshells... people get offended... nothing wrong with that... let people get offended. I personally enjoy watching hunting videos... I haven't gotten my hunting license yet and I still debate in my head if it's something I'd be able to do (I've killed ducks and that's about it)... and I appreciate people that post videos of clean and the not so clean kills. It makes me personally appreciate the meat I eat a lot more... AND further take into consideration if it's something I can or can't do.
I think that most of us are not suggesting that no hunting videos be distributed, but rather those that depict the worst aspects of hunting...and hunters.
Homosexuality as an analogy to hunting? A bit of a stretch, but I'd say that the airing of the homosexual rape of a chained underage child would be about the closest analogy to some of the "hunting" videos I've had the misfortune to see. Humanity at its worst...nothing to brag about.
Homosexuality as an analogy to hunting? A bit of a stretch, but I'd say that the airing of the homosexual rape of a chained underage child would be about the closest analogy to some of the "hunting" videos I've had the misfortune to see. Humanity at its worst...nothing to brag about.
saskgunowner101
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That's a pretty general statement that I'm sure doesn't apply to a lot of hunters.
Now you're describing something illegal vs offensive... but I can see how some people would consider hunting as bad as that... and they are offended... good for them slowclap.gif
Seems like everyone just thinks about the deers and the bears... what about the fish and the birds? Are those exceptions? Do they "feel" less than the grizzlies?
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Actually, fishing is much more cruel if they want ammunition but using a fishing rod is much less offensive apparently.
Nobody drags a deer behind their truck all day while they troll trying to fill their limit.
Wanna go to an egg farm?
Maybe a slaughter house?
Fish farm?
Loading dock where lettuce is wilting and about to die?
It is all about what they want to complain about for that moment.
Many more animals wounded by vehicles each year than hunters ever could, don't see a movement against vehicles do we?
Have a hobby , go enjoy it and don't push your beliefs on others, oh, and stay off the internet if you are easily offended by every day life.
Nobody drags a deer behind their truck all day while they troll trying to fill their limit.
Wanna go to an egg farm?
Maybe a slaughter house?
Fish farm?
Loading dock where lettuce is wilting and about to die?
It is all about what they want to complain about for that moment.
Many more animals wounded by vehicles each year than hunters ever could, don't see a movement against vehicles do we?
Have a hobby , go enjoy it and don't push your beliefs on others, oh, and stay off the internet if you are easily offended by every day life.
That's about the best answer out there... I remember when I was dating on OKCupid, one of the questions was "what's worse, starving child or a starving animal" (or something like that)... I was shocked by the amount of people that would side for an animal... but hey! That's your opinion!
meadowmuffin3
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You need to make a hat out of the mane!!! Dreadlocks would be a nice touch!
They do on HBO/Netflix and you don't have to look too hard to find that... furthermore, what about all the acts of war and against other humans that are shown? Ever spend an hour on liveleak? Hunting if anything needs more air-time. People need to be educated in the fact that animals don't just instantly turn into burger meat... There's a process, and sometimes things don't go as planned. Also note that our "media" is pretty weak. We censor so much... we live in this little bubble of fairy tales... did everyone believe before the internet that animals instantly died after getting shot? that EVERY SINGLE KILL was a good clean kill? Open your eyes people! This isn't lala land... it's our right to see what's going on... if we don't want to see things and want to continue living in lala land, then, as buddy mentioned, maybe you should stay off the internet and cancel your tv subscription...
And the fact that everyone knows what's going on and we just want to sweep it under the rug... "yeah, we get it, sometimes animals suffer... but let's hide that because people might get offended"... "let's not show the truth about ______"... is that the kind of world you want to live in? I don't want my children growing up thinking it's all peaches and daisies...
When I taught my kids about the consequences of not looking both ways when crossing the street... I showed them videos on the internet about kids getting hit by a car. Cause that's real. When I wanted to teach my kids about poverty, I showed the real videos of impoverished children around the world. I hope to teach my kids first hand about hunting, but I have showed them how some companies treat animals and how despicable it is.
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saskgunowner101
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Not really my place to say what everyone "thinks", but saying everyone wounds game often, is painting with a big brush. Why do you suppose you wound so much game?
