Runningfool
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What the heck is an "NEA-15 CQB"? Grapeshot, you're asserting that's the name of the rifle, so I don't know whether you're joking or if you really don't know what you're talking about.
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http://www.northeasternarms.com/manuals/nea15_productsheet.pdf Their 10.5" model. Second on the left.
OldFrankHog
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Thats a nice rifle right there.
Runningfool
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Hmmmm never heard of them called "NEA-15 CQB" before, it's certainly not on the rifles themselves. You learn something every day! Hope I don't loose my shill card over this
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I give up. CGN polls are clearly scientific and and chicom surplus ammo is clearly precision match grade stuff.
Don't buy an NEA if you are a hater and you wanna hate. No skin off my back. I just hate when people are blinded to the point their critical thinking skills get stuck in the "OFF" position. to the point they troll permanently and concisely for years and consistently need to mail bomb every NEA thread.
Just saying. It get tiresome. Fast. We, the CGN masses, get it Mr. Grapeshot. You hate NEA and always will, no matter what. I think that about covers your position. Can we all move on now?
Don't buy an NEA if you are a hater and you wanna hate. No skin off my back. I just hate when people are blinded to the point their critical thinking skills get stuck in the "OFF" position. to the point they troll permanently and concisely for years and consistently need to mail bomb every NEA thread.
Just saying. It get tiresome. Fast. We, the CGN masses, get it Mr. Grapeshot. You hate NEA and always will, no matter what. I think that about covers your position. Can we all move on now?
Strawmen and hyperbole aside, I'm not the one who was trying to ignore any and all available evidence. Critical thinking would require it to be considered, no?
I'm just trying to show you, rationally, that there is validity to the claims some people have against the quality of NEA products.
And for your last point, I've stated the exact opposite multiple times already. Again, if they clean up their act, I'd totally buy from them again. I like buying Canadian and their customer service got me taken care of in the end.
I don't really have any ill will towards them. They did make it right after I made a warranty claim. If in another 5 years we're not seeing any more bi-weekly "my NEA broke" threads, I might give them another shot. But for now, buying Canadian for me means buying Colt Canada. I just with they'd release some parts individually so I wouldn't have to part out so many rifles.
a handful of youtube videos and an online poll are hardly "all available evidence". But I feel ya. I hope they improve until people think of them as a go-to supplier. Ontario's rust-belt is ever expanding to the point the province is leaching transfer payments out of everyone else to fund their idiotic provincial government. We need successful manufacturers there more than ever.
Ain't that the truth or Ontario will file Chapter 11.
I didn't say that or imply it. I just wanted to know why you think it is sub standard ammunition.
The reason I ask is that I'm the one with the NEA that had the barrel extension break up earlier this month, running Romanian surplus ammo. NEA suggests commercial or military surplus ammunition to be used during break-in, which I only got 5 rounds into. In fact NEA uses 70's vintage surplus ammunition at factory when they test fire the rifles.
I think for any well balanced discussion we need to prod each other to determine fact from opinion, the two are sometimes difficult to discern.
I'm sold on NEA having better quality rifles than they are being judged on in this flame war - albeit I managed to buy a 2 year old rifle brand new. I feel if I got a 2015 production rifle I would not have had the issues discussed.
Runningfool
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Precisely. No has ever denied that NEA has had serious problems, least of all me. The unfortunate thing is that a handful of CGNers see red whenever they hear NEA and can never add anything to the discussion other than "NEA is crap" or "NEA sucks". As you said, their critical thinking skills stop functioning.
And a month from now when someone buys a 3 year old NEA-15, has an issue, and posts pictures on CGN we will go through this same old circus act again. A few people here have so much invested in their hatred for NEA, their narrative will never change.
The gen 1 failed badly and the replacement gen2 that they sent me failed too. What does it take for people to understand that Nea is a POS? Shrapnel to the face? Dangling fingers? Nea is a company that started with lies and will continue to lie and make crap. The fackin China nork is better than that ####.
Runningfool
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Case in point.
To be fair, deagle got burned pretty badly by NEA, and his rifle was new when it imploded less than a year ago. He gave them a shot, twice actually since he tried to live with the replacement (something I did not have the patience to do).
Sounds pretty open minded to me. What changed was that he was let down a second time shortly thereafter. How does the old saying go? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice ..."
Sure, you can throw out ad hominems and claim the people that disagree with you lack the capacity for critical thought. But may I remind you that at least a few supporters of NEA are guilty of trying to dismiss a number of objectively verifiable failures in the past couple of years.
You admit they had serious problems when they first started making rifles. That was in 2008. But after seeing reports of significant issues well into 2014 and 2015, would you admit they are still having problems with their products?
Runningfool
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They started making rifles in 2008? Either your capacity for critical thought is limited or you are repeating bad info you've read on the Internet.
Look, I don't know why you're so testy. I'm just trying to have a reasonable conversation with you. Maybe instead of being snarky, you can actually respond to the question?
http://www.northeasternarms.com/4_about.html
Runningfool
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Not trying to be "testy" or "snarky", just tired of bad info that people continue to pass on. I am relieved to see that your glass house is ad hominem proof though.
Wrt your question, I'm not sure I recall any significant issues with NEA-15 rifles made in 2015, certainly not a lot of them.
What part of my post was "bad info," exactly? Presumably, if they were founded in 2008, they would have started building rifles in 2008. If they still had issues in 2015 with 2014 manufactured rifles, presumably they would have had problems in 2008 as well.
So then from 2008-2014 at least, you would admit they had issues?
Runningfool
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The first rifles they produced were in November 2011, a little more than 4 years ago. You stating that they've had issues with their rifle manufacturing from 2008-2014 is bad info because sure enough, just as you are doing now, someone a few months from now is going to say, "NEA has been making AR-15s since 2008 and they still haven't got it right!"
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