New .32 Rimfire Ammo!

jeffreyguy said:
I got the stuff with the 0. 28 wall because it left me a little material to drill out to get a press fit on the blank. I tried the steel tube without a rim, just the blank at first, but the cartridge didn't protrude far enough from the cylinder to be hit by the hammer. I have just been using the green blanks on their own mostly, and it seems a little hot, but I dont notice any excess wear yet. I also tried unveiling the blank and filling the case with fffg pyrodex and that worked satisfactorily, but it was much dirtier.
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Good to know - in my particular revolver I found that the rim of the Ramset was thick enough to set off and actually I don't have enough clearance/headspace there to fit any degree of shim under the Ramset; I kept having to turn down my scarce .32 Short Colt brass to the point they are basically just a tube, to get the clearance necessary for the cyllinder to turn. My Stevens, however, is a different animal and I can easily load with a thicker rim.
 
The antique laws are different in the States - so any guns that have modern ammunition readily available are no longer an antique. If I understand this correctly, if new ammo became available, the guns would no longer be antique class. I'm not sure about this as I think about it - they can get other old calibre ammo - I guess that I don't know about their different classes.
 
anchor3593 said:
The antique laws are different in the States - so any guns that have modern ammunition readily available are no longer an antique. If I understand this correctly, if new ammo became available, the guns would no longer be antique class. I'm not sure about this as I think about it - they can get other old calibre ammo - I guess that I don't know about their different classes.
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No. Ammunition availability is not relevant in the US or Canada. In the US, date of manufacture is the key, 1898 or earlier. Canada is before 1898, and there are the cartridge & caliber issues.
 
" For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term " Antique Firearms " means any firearm not intended or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898 (including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap or similar type of ignition system or replica, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.

I typed that out - so there may be tiny errors.
 
"Any firearm (...) manufactured in or before 1898 ...
The (...) lists the primitive ignition systems, but other systems are not excluded from antique classification. The clause goes on to deal with replicas, which lose antique status if the are originally chambered for readily available ammunition, or converted to use it. Not readily available ammunition keeps the guns' antique status. For example, replica 1860 Henry rifles were made in both .44 rimfire and .44-40. The former have antique status, the latter, non-antique.
A .45 Colt 1873 made in 1899 is not an antique under US law, while one made in 1898 is.
 
Well I just went out and shot a dozen of my steel tube cartridges. They seem to be fairly accurate, but im not so I cant really say. I was using a green ramset load as powder, which is a rather heavy load for this gun, but I have yet to notice any ill effects. My brass tube should come in soon and maybe ill have a better shooting test for you guys next weekend.
On a somewhat related topic, what do you guys think I should pay for a decent shootable stevens favorite 1915 in 32 rimfire?
 
jeffreyguy said:
Well I just went out and shot a dozen of my steel tube cartridges. They seem to be fairly accurate, but im not so I cant really say. I was using a green ramset load as powder, which is a rather heavy load for this gun, but I have yet to notice any ill effects. My brass tube should come in soon and maybe ill have a better shooting test for you guys next weekend.
On a somewhat related topic, what do you guys think I should pay for a decent shootable stevens favorite 1915 in 32 rimfire?
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Thanks for the update - I need to try this too.

A decent shootable (but not mint) 1915 in brown/grey condition in .32 Rf shouldn't net more than $200. I've picked these up for well under that.
 
anchor3593 said:
The antique laws are different in the States - so any guns that have modern ammunition readily available are no longer an antique. If I understand this correctly, if new ammo became available, the guns would no longer be antique class. I'm not sure about this as I think about it - they can get other old calibre ammo - I guess that I don't know about their different classes.
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I think your thinking of the UK. For them it is anything before 1898 (as I understand it), however you cannot possess ammo for it. If you want to shoot it, I believe they have to get it registered and placed on their licence
 
Eaglelord17 said:
I think your thinking of the UK. For them it is anything before 1898 (as I understand it), however you cannot possess ammo for it. If you want to shoot it, I believe they have to get it registered and placed on their licence
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Yeah - that was definitely an incorrect interpretation of the legal definition - it was just a letter thrown in with antiques sent to me.

Tiraq is right - the "available ammunition " is referring to modern reproduction antiques - so if I understand correctly now, you could make a new "Defender" model of gun which uses 32 rim fire and it would still be an antique because the ammo is not readily available etc. Go to that link to find details - I'm on my cell so it would be a little tricky to copy-paste it all.
 
anchor3593 said:
Yeah - that was definitely an incorrect interpretation of the legal definition - it was just a letter thrown in with antiques sent to me.

Tiraq is right - the "available ammunition " is referring to modern reproduction antiques - so if I understand correctly now, you could make a new "Defender" model of gun which uses 32 rim fire and it would still be an antique because the ammo is not readily available etc. Go to that link to find details - I'm on my cell so it would be a little tricky to copy-paste it all.
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That is US, not Canadian.
 
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