And did the courts know that would happen when he was found guilty?
Uclulet FN removes chief and bans him from hunting privileges
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And did the courts know that would happen when he was found guilty?
We have had to fight the Indian act every step of the way and wear still fighting it on till the Indian act is abolished and native right respected including are FN law
http://www.cbc.ca/news/aboriginal/21-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-indian-act-1.3533613
http://www.cbc.ca/news/aboriginal/21-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-indian-act-1.3533613
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I think this is a very positive development. Good for the first nation people for standing up for what's right. It is interesting and sad that even when a very positive news story is reported about a first nation correcting a members bad behaviour, so many people still focus on the bad behaviour, not the positive correction and community action. I think they deserve applause.
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^Sorry sir. I respectfully disagree with you. Dual standards do absolutely nothing for our so called 'justice system.'
The often used Gladue legal defense is so overdone IMO.
There's a lot of FN(Hopefuly the majority) who hunt responsibly and ethically and share their catch( my foster daughter who has 4 kids periodically gets a haunch of venison and salmon when they are running) FN who shoot and kill and waste meat or fish just because it's their 'right' do their people a great disservice.The public condemnation by ethical and responsible FN of such practices goes a long way to building bridges.
I was fishing last winter alongside some FN guys and one landed a large ling cod in a closed season and some of the people watching commented about the 'special treatment' FN had...the guy turned to the person and told him he was correct,he did have a right to keep the lingcod,but was releasing it because it was spawning season.No more as said...
Personally,I don't have an issue with subsistance harvesting, as long as the species is not endangered, the meat is not wasted,shared and definately not sold.In fact a 'back to the land' lifestyle would be a lot healthier for them than migrating to cities...
I was fishing last winter alongside some FN guys and one landed a large ling cod in a closed season and some of the people watching commented about the 'special treatment' FN had...the guy turned to the person and told him he was correct,he did have a right to keep the lingcod,but was releasing it because it was spawning season.No more as said...
Personally,I don't have an issue with subsistance harvesting, as long as the species is not endangered, the meat is not wasted,shared and definately not sold.In fact a 'back to the land' lifestyle would be a lot healthier for them than migrating to cities...
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Family shame feast?! First it cost, 100 grand, then 200 grand?! Where are they getting the money to throw a $200,000 party for everyone?! Here's your punishment. Throw a party that costs 200 G's. Wow. So this chief would have that kind of money laying around for a feast? What a system........ it is disgusting.
The famly will wind up putting two feast up the first one will be a shame feast 100,000 then a nother feast has to be put up by the famly for a new chief that's a nother 100,000 easly
bearkilr
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Must be a wealthy family.
Bearkiller it will take them mean years of saving and collecting one feast can take 10 years to put together for the next 20 year or so his famly will be paying the price for what this one man has dun I bet he would rather go to jail over Trible Justus
bearkilr
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They're still better off than 150 years ago. He would've gotten a tomahawk in the side of the head.
Most hunters of all backgrounds are good guys and conservationists. They don't want to hunt anything to extinction, they want to get their meat in the most ethical way possible.
But the thing is, there ARE some bad guys out there, wantonly killing stuff, letting meat and fish rot, and killing threatened populations of animals. And the frustration comes from how there are different repercussions that natives face as opposed to non native. For instance, we don't have many moose around here. There is no open season, no LEH, because the population can't sustain it. Nobody that actually cares about wildlife should kill one in an area with this low population. Every now and then there is a moose hanging in a carport on one of the local reserves. The CO's might stop and talk, but they really have no recourse. If it was in my carport, I'd lose my license, be fined, lose my rifle and truck.
Another frustration, especially for game managers, is that native harvest is for the most part unrecorded.
I'd like to see more Bands step up like the Uculet band and get proactive in wildlife management, especially in conjunction with other stakeholders and the province.
Like I said, I support sustenance hunting, but I believe that the bad elements should be actively stamped out, and if it can't be done with the courts, then it should be done by the band elders. Wanton killing and waste benefits nobody.
Brutus
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Hereabouts in the north east Lakeland bordering the northern woods of Saskatchewan, it is pretty disgusting to see all those ling cod carcasses rotting on the frozen lakes. About two winters ago someone posted this carnage on the youtube channel. Nothing taken for subsistence other than the livers. This cultural habit, singles out certain locals.
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They should be putting 200 grand towards education and career training. Maybe conservation donations or something useful. A feast for 200 grand is a joke and a disgrace to their Justice system.
I'm suspected you would never be happy with eny FN
This is the root of the problem not FN hunting or FN Justus
Go ahead and continue blaming everyone else for being the roots of your problems. I think a feast as a punishment is silly, that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. For you to turn that around saying I have a problem with all FN no matter what? That sir has no bearing on the conversation.
I think the opposite. A provincial court fining the individual would just encourage more division, more "screw the white man, it's my right" bad behavior. This action will put abuse of their hunting privileges front and center in their own community, and clearly establish what is unacceptable.
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