Wolves commit disasterous PR move!

mark222 said:
I would agree with the site you got the link from, it looks like they are playing with it. Neither look very hungry or focused on eating. What the site may have failed to mention, is that the wolves idea of "playing" equals a slow and painful death for the deer. It's true the wolves are playing with the deer, but the question you have to ask is does the deer want to play with the wolves?
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does the dear want to play with the wolves? lol
 
The stupid is strong in the comments. The wolves were tired as the buck was. At this point they were not expending anymore energy than they needed to. It was't going anywhere. They also could have been waiting for the rest of the pack to catch up.
 
ratherbefishin said:
The biggest challange we as hunters face us the totally unnatural and naive views of anti hunters who have absolutely no concept of what'Nature' really is -a food chain consisting of an eco system of both prey and preditor .....being cute, warm and fuzzy has absolutely nothing to do with it...like it not,nothing lives 'happily ever after' and the worms get us all in the end...

My pet peeve right now is the seals that swim behind my boat and take the salmon off my line.....when I Was a kid,there was a $5 bounty on a seals nose and you couldn't get a 1/4 mile from one,now they slide off the rocks when you pick up a rod.....and shoot one any you are fined $5000..WHY? Seals aren't endangered,not by a long shot...anymore than BC wolves are -it's pure politics...truth is, the seals have learned what the easy pickings are,not like trying to catch them on their own
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Yes, and the seals have increased immensely since the time when they became protected and the salmon, adult and fry, are being consumed in ever increasing numbers.
Wolves killing deer, moose and all other of the hoofed big game may be nature at its best, but I think we all know that as the wolves increase, the prey decreases. With the amount of wolves now in western Canada their prey, in particular moose, will be on a steady decrease, as is easily observed.
All those people replying to this post who wouldn't shoot the wolves, that were just doing their thing and being wolves, aren't the same people who are whining when they can't get a moose draw!
 
Common practice around here to discharge 3 rounds.

I imagine a human wolf kill would be allot faster as any man would fight until his last breath.
 
H4831 said:
Yes, and the seals have increased immensely since the time when they became protected and the salmon, adult and fry, are being consumed in ever increasing numbers.
Wolves killing deer, moose and all other of the hoofed big game may be nature at its best, but I think we all know that as the wolves increase, the prey decreases. With the amount of wolves now in western Canada their prey, in particular moose, will be on a steady decrease, as is easily observed.
All those people replying to this post who wouldn't shoot the wolves, that were just doing their thing and being wolves, aren't the same people who are whining when they can't get a moose draw!
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If you asked most people, they would be under the wrong assumption that wolves are endangered in this country and they are always city folk that have no clue ... It is all got to do with politics and people's misconceptions. Wolves will be wolves and I'm glad that we have them in the wild, but definitely their numbers should be kept in check. Too many camps have fresh wolf tracks and no sign of game ... People forget we've been part of this life cycle too long to just sit on the sidelines.
 
There's a nature of things about the revive wolfpacks of yellowstone that shows several kills, including a wolfpack killing a coyote by pulling it apart, alive.

Nature is a cruel b!tch when she wants to be.

GGG
 
H4831 said:
Yes, and the seals have increased immensely since the time when they became protected and the salmon, adult and fry, are being consumed in ever increasing numbers.
Wolves killing deer, moose and all other of the hoofed big game may be nature at its best, but I think we all know that as the wolves increase, the prey decreases. With the amount of wolves now in western Canada their prey, in particular moose, will be on a steady decrease, as is easily observed.
All those people replying to this post who wouldn't shoot the wolves, that were just doing their thing and being wolves, aren't the same people who are whining when they can't get a moose draw!
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Yup. Where I live the valley here has 3 wolf packs now. Used to travel the highway in the early morning during the winter and you would see 20 or more moose bedded down under the power lines along the highway. Haven't seen that in 20 years. Rarely see moose these days in the valley. And when you do see the rare moose tracks in the mud or snow, guess whose tracks are right there with it... But you can see wolf tracks everywhere without even trying.
 
From some of the youtube comments you would think wolves had their own grocery stores that they could go to instead of eating the poor deer. People are f*cked.
 
Nature is cruel, survival is the rule sometimes city slickers forget, this is how they are reminded it is a brutal way to go for the buck but that's the name of the game prey get prayed on but I must say if I had a rifle id be damn hard not to shoot seeing the suffering the poor buck had to go through
 
Public opinion is fickle,one time every wolf was shot on sight and the goal was to eradicate them....now it's swung 100%the other way...by people who live in the city and only see wolves on carefully edited TV shows to cut out the nasty bits...which is about the same as buying meat in a grocery store,all cut and wrapped with no blood showing...
 
CreamySmooth said:
Wolves kill for fun if they can. Not just for food. Nature Nuts don't get that.
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You hit the nail right on the head...Wolves are killing machines that practice their occupation weather they are hungry or not...The urgency of their task is quickened if hungry but if not then the offered video is an example of many daily occurrence's somewhere.

The morality of a wolf "only killing sick & wounded to survive" offered up by Disney's and Farey Mohats of the world are so far from the truth
 
ratherbefishin said:
Public opinion is fickle,one time every wolf was shot on sight and the goal was to eradicate them....now it's swung 100%the other way...by people who live in the city and only see wolves on carefully edited TV shows to cut out the nasty bits...which is about the same as buying meat in a grocery store,all cut and wrapped with no blood showing...
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I agreed with a post of yours a while back, but there is a portion of this post I will point out, that is absolutely wrong!

"---- and the goal was to eradicate them."

In all the history of wolves in BC, there was never any attempt to eradicate them. Without doubt, the greatest organized wolf poisoning campaign in Canada, and probably in north America, was the wolf culling program in BC during the 1950s, when hundreds of tons of frozen, poisoned meat was dropped on frozen lakes over much of BC, for a period of several years.
But the purpose of the campaign, official or otherwise, was never to eradicate the wolves. When the biologist in charge of the campaign was asked this question, his answer was a flat "No," followed by the statement that it would be impossible to kill all the wolves in BC.
The purpose was to ease the tremendous onslaught the wolves had on wild game and ranchers cattle.
 
Humans invented concepts of "cruel", "humane", and the favorite of whiners everywhere "fair". Before that there was only winners and losers, survivors and dead, strong and weak, hungry and fed. Since there was no cruelty before we invented it, its our fault. "Fair" might be good for reducing fatalities in a hockey game but has next to nothing to do with running a universe.
 
' The goal was to eradicate them'...eradication was likely the goal in the US and possably by prairie ranchers.I also believe eradication may have been the goal in Scandinavian countries.I agree BC was probably more 'control' than eradication
 
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