Modern Varmint Rifle Updated Oct 14 2015
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onetwentyish
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- East Central AB (AKA Northern Texas)
It sure would be nice to hear something positive from ATRS , today.
Indeed!
- Location
- Jameson, SK
too heavy? hit the gym, get stronger, 6 more ounces from a scope is all of a sudden no problem.
I know you're poking fun, but this is like shaving weight on a race car or an aircraft. Scopes today range from 18oz to 48oz - that's 2 lbs difference!
Add an extra pound of scope, then a heavy QD mount, a 1.5lb bipod, a sling and swivels, maybe an ACD.....now you've added 2-3lbs, and that matters.
If you want a truly lightweight rifle, you gotta shave wherever you can. Of course there's a value ratio to everything, and a Ti action and/or CF stock and or Proof CF barrel is gonna make you poor quickly, but if you're gonna do it, do it right.....
Would be interesting to hear what the weight savings on a MH/MV would be with a Ti receiver??....and the cost???
Yep Leolpold is still one of the best hunting scope
I hated hunting with the NightFore SHV just to big to awkward and to heavy threw the balance way off shooting off hand with the MH
IMO a scope isn't the place to worry about weight or cost. I'm sure this MV will have some legs so you're going to want to have a proper sight picture of the animal for an ethical kill shot. Get rid of all those junky attachments to save weight! If you're really worried about weight get an iron sights lever action or a pencil barrel bolt. You can't complain about weight and start tossing words around like bipod, acd and a bunch of other attachments. Plus the ground will hold the rifle for you when you're using your bipod so who cares about weight! ;P
you're right, looks totally stupid....NOTTTTT (5x20 btw, pic stolen from the interweb)
butttt in all seriousness put what ever the hell you want on your rifle, its yours and youre entitled to do what ever you like with it. Strap a telescope to the damn thing and call it a day lol cant wait for the day mines arrives
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Patt08
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Jameson, SK
IMO a scope isn't the place to worry about weight or cost. I'm sure this MV will have some legs so you're going to want to have a proper sight picture of the animal for an ethical kill shot. Get rid of all those junky attachments to save weight! If you're really worried about weight get an iron sights lever action or a pencil barrel bolt. You can't complain about weight and start tossing words around like bipod, acd and a bunch of other attachments. Plus the ground will hold the rifle for you when you're using your bipod so who cares about weight! ;P
you're right, looks totally stupid....NOTTTTT (5x20 btw, pic stolen from the interweb)
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butttt in all seriousness put what ever the hell you want on your rifle, its yours and youre entitled to do what ever you like with it. Strap a telescope to the damn thing and call it a day lol cant wait for the day mines arrives
Maybe you're not poking fun.....
When a good hunting scope can be 20oz vs. 40-50 for an ATACR, a Razor, TT, S&B, how can that not matter???
The ground sure as hell doesn't hold your rifle on the 4 day walk on a sheep hunt, or even on a days walk for deer or moose. If your walk is 50yds from your truck to your coyote spotting lookout, then giv'er with the 45oz scope.
Stuff and junk like bipods and slings are generally considered pretty helpful and important for hunting where I live. I'm not talking about laser designator here, or a tactical flashlight.....
ATRS Shaun
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- Location
- Calgary, AB
Not controversy, conversation. And conversation is good, you never learn anything new if you don't hear someone with a different opinion.
I have an NXS 5.5-22x56 on my Hunter... it's a lot of scope on there. I'm addicted to good glass though, and for the varmint I'm trying to decide still. It may get a Razor GenII 1-6, or for a 1/4 the price, a strike eagle. They are a very nice little package at an incredibly good value. I'm also on the fence about just using the Razor red dot I already have on it too... Nothing wrong with open discussion, and nothing wrong at all with using the strike eagle on a Modern Varmint.
Listen, of course i was poking fun. This all stems from the "hitting the gym to get stronger" comment I said. IMO If you dont think you can carry your weapon on a 4 day walk because your scope is too heavy, maybe you should rethink a 4 day walk. Shed the sling and bipod for an ergonomic backpack. weight is better distributed, you can use the backpack as a shooting bag and youre most likely going to be carrying one on 4 day walk anyway.
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Shaun you say you may use the razor red dot you have on it too. So you already have an MV then. Show us some pics
I read a article somewhere from a Canadian magazine did a Field review of the MV at one of the gun shows
I will dig out the magazine and see if I can find a copy of the article online and post a link
ATRS Shaun
Business Member Rep.
- Location
- Calgary, AB
That would be Calibre magazine, I can't seem to find that review online yet and we loaned them one of our production-model prototypes. (read as: barrel has seen a few too many rounds...)
My varmint is nothing more than an upper and lower right now. Our own personal uppers and lowers are made in the first run and of course we try to get them done fairly quickly because we need extensive product knowledge and personal experience, but to cherry pick parts when they're in limited quantities and customers are waiting would be unethical. We do put plenty of rounds down range with the production-model prototypes (aka. Demo guns), so there's not necessarily the same degree of urgency you all are experiencing. ;-) I have slightly more time to figure out my optics than the rest of you...
- Location
- Red Deer, Alberta
I'll weigh in on the scope discussion here. The Vortex Strike Eagle is excellent AT IT'S PRICE POINT! It however does not come close to competing with more expensive options in the 1-6 scope category. I researched all options in the 1-6 power range last year when I was looking for a scope for my ACR. I looked through as many of them as I could find (Leupold, Bushnell, Vortex, Trigicon, Swarovski, Sightron, Kahles) at retailers in Alberta. I ended up breaking the bank and getting a Kahles K16i with the SM1 reticle. I think this is about the best 1-6 powered scope you can buy. I find it absolutely amazing and is perfect for what I needed. Other scopes I own in this category are the Vortex Strike Eagle and a Sightron S TAC 1-7x24 IRMH. I have the Strike Eagle mounted on a 10/22, I like the daylight bright illumination for up close plinking with 2 eyes open at 1 power. The Sightron was around $1000 when I purchased it a few years ago, it is probably more now with the current exchange rate. The glass is better than anything cheaper and often better than scopes that are more expensive. I have it mounted on my T97 FTU. My only issue with it is the illumination is not that bright, do not expect to use it like a red dot! In my opinion it would make an excellent hunting scope for the MV if you are happy with a max of 7x magnification.
I do not have a MV on order since I am currently unemployed and going back to school in sept. But if I did I would probably move my Leupold Mark 6 3-18x44 from my MH and mount it on my MV. And then look for something with a bit more magnification for my MH.
If anyone would like to have a look at my scopes and are in the Red Deer area, you are more than welcome to contact me by PM here and we can meet up at the range.
I do not have a MV on order since I am currently unemployed and going back to school in sept. But if I did I would probably move my Leupold Mark 6 3-18x44 from my MH and mount it on my MV. And then look for something with a bit more magnification for my MH.
If anyone would like to have a look at my scopes and are in the Red Deer area, you are more than welcome to contact me by PM here and we can meet up at the range.
Another thumbs up for the sightron. I have a sightron SIII 1-7x24IRMOA on my AR (this model was replaced by the S TAX 1-7). It was a phenomenal value when the CAD$ was at par.
