RCMP "E" Division Broadcast reguarding Ruger 10/22 rifle magazines.

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jmichelin84 said:
Armouredtrooper, I completely agree, we need to make somewhat our own 2Nd amendment, to all that reside an arm to protect the land that they call thier home, or something like that, we should start a petition, or tey to re awaken one that tried before
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The thing that I admire most about the American Second Amendment is that it really does not grant them the right to own firearms for self defence etc but what it does is recognize that self defence is Natural Law, (ie:common sense) and prohibits government infringement upon Natural Law. We hold these truths to be self-evident...
 
John, Jordan here. And as for that matter anyone who has some insight. I was out in the bush shooting with my friends today and we had a Remington vtr with the 25 round mags. Long and short police showed up and seized the magazines from us for destruction under the premise that they were prohib. Now my understanding of this was only ruger 10/22 magazines were now prohib devices
 
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kitchenmagician said:
The Conservatives are the ones who brought in the entire magazine capacity restriction IN THE FIRST PLACE. It DID happen with the Conservatives......on multiple occasions.
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NO it did not happen with the current conservatives, it happened under the federal progressive conservatives which as a party ceased to exist when the Conservative Party of Canada was formed. Nice deflection, here on cgn we all know about the red tories and the cancer that liberalism brings to all parties that are not vigilant. Those of us that have paid attention know that kim scramble was as much a liberal as trrudue. The pc's did not start this nor did the cpc. This entire mess started under trudue senior in the 70's.

As long as i have been alive the liberals have tried to take every freedom, every means of self defence, every right that we should have away from us. Some of us have had enough and we refuse to take this calmly or lying down.
 
BR427 said:
It isn't so much that we run scared. Some of us have a lot to lose, not a lot of finances to fight and we are usually on the losing end. Thank you for what you do and have done, but understand that a lot of us have a lot to lose and can't always fight back like we would want to because we just don't have the money to gamble.
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I understand and sympathize with your position, believe it or not my position is very similar. Wolverine Supplies is the total of my life's work, I must include my wife, Pat in that as well, we have nothing else, I guess when all you have to loose is everything, one tends to get a little "bloody minded" and determined. I am not asking people to break any laws or even "stick their neck out" just get involved, educate your friends and meet with your MP.
 
Erasmus said:
John, Jordan here. And as for that matter anyone who has some insight. I was out in the bush shooting with my friends today and we had a Remington vtr with the 25 round mags. Long and short police showed up and seized the magazines from us for destruction under the premise that they were prohib. Now my understanding of this was only ruger 10/22 magazines were now prohib devices
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Did you get paperwork?
 
Erasmus said:
John, Jordan here. And as for that matter anyone who has some insight. I was out in the bush shooting with my friends today and we had a Remington vtr with the 25 round mags. Long and short police showed up and seized the magazines from us for destruction under the premise that they were prohib. Now my understanding of this was only ruger 10/22 magazines were now prohib devices
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Details, scan the paperwork. You did get some paper from them? Or it didn't happen. Stop trolling or "pony" up...
 
Erasmus said:
All I got was one officers card. And I had to sign something saying they repo'd them in his notebook. Didn't want to argue at the time because I don't care to get written up
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In a word, you are a pos. Stop posting bull####. Get out of your basement and get a life
 
Erasmus said:
John, Jordan here. And as for that matter anyone who has some insight. I was out in the bush shooting with my friends today and we had a Remington vtr with the 25 round mags. Long and short police showed up and seized the magazines from us for destruction under the premise that they were prohib. Now my understanding of this was only ruger 10/22 magazines were now prohib devices
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Hi Jordan, I hope you asked for a receipt? You do have the officers name and detachment I hope? I would advise that you give them a call in the morning and POLITELY ask them under what grounds did they take your magazines and that you want a written statement from them as you believe that they may be "mistaken". If you would like further assistance please e-mail me at John@wolverinesupplies.com
 
I'm respectfully going to ask you to remove yourself from this thread. But as br427 and mr.wolverine are discussing I have a lot more to lose than a couple of cheap mags at the expense of my long guns it just wasn't worth fighting today
 
Mr Wolverine said:
Hi Jordan, I hope you asked for a receipt? You do have the officers name and detachment I hope? I would advise that you give them a call in the morning and POLITELY ask them under what grounds did they take your magazines and that you want a written statement from them as you believe that they may be "mistaken". If you would like further assistance please e-mail me at John@wolverinesupplies.com
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John, there was no official looking paperwork just his notebook the officer was writing in. I do have his name and detachment though and will be contacting them in the morning. Thank you for the reply and I will contact you if I do require any further assistance
 
Erasmus said:
I'm respectfully going to ask you to remove yourself from this thread. But as br427 and mr.wolverine are discussing I have a lot more to lose than a couple of cheap mags at the expense of my long guns it just wasn't worth fighting today
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My apologies Jordan. A little pissy about the whole situation, lack of info makes my **** sore. I'll follow your situation and if it comes to support I'm in. Again, excuse my stupidity, my wife says it comes and goes...
Cheers
Tom
 
Brocolt said:
what about the DAR22, MLR22H and other off branded 10/22 styles
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No clue, but they don't seem to have that large a share of the market. The 125,000 is only an estimation anyway, since the long gun registry is gone, it's not possible to know for sure.

The 1 million magazine is an estimation from the manufacturers of the amount sold since they came to market in the 70's. There's most probably less than that going around, but still in the high 6-digits. The point is that the overwhelming majority of those mags were manufactured for the rifles, not for the charger, and it would be impossible for the charger owners to absorb even a measurable fraction of that amount of mags.

This is all just trivia anyway. Even if all the 464 chargers were to magically disappear, the rcmp would still consider it as "commonly available" since it's got an FRT. In reality, the charger has been discontinued, and even if you would like to purchase one, you'd have a hard time finding one. It's not "commonly available" in the sense that you'll find one easily; it's "commonly available" in the sense that it's theoretically possible to buy one. If you have an RPAL.
 
rangebob said:
According to this, it seems to have been manufactured 2008 through the present
http://www.ruger.com/service/productHistory.html

22 Charger Pistol
Beginning Serial Number: Years of Production:
490-00001 2008
490-30204 2009
490-38600 2010
490-39965 2011
490-41970 2012
490-46686 2013
490-47392 2014
490-49137 2015

i.e. it's not discontinued.
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Nah, but I don't think anyone imports it in canada anymore. I sure have no clue where I would go to buy a brand new charger in canada. Not that I want one; they're ugly AF.
 
Let me get this straight. Simply on the words of the RCMP, their premise that your possession is prohibited, you sign their "notebook", gave up your possession without a fight.

If this is true at what point would you fight.
1) after they say your long guns are prohibit and take that away.
2) your vehicle is prohibit and take that away.
3) your pants are prohibit and take that away.
Or you would never fight and walk home naked. RCMP's job is to enforce the law. You have the right to demand what law they are enforcing.
Erasmus said:
...I have a lot more to lose than a couple of cheap mags at the expense of my long guns it just wasn't worth fighting today
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Erasmus said:
All I got was one officers card. And I had to sign something saying they repo'd them in his notebook. Didn't want to argue at the time because I don't care to get written up
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Erasmus said:
John, Jordan here. And as for that matter anyone who has some insight. I was out in the bush shooting with my friends today and we had a Remington vtr with the 25 round mags. Long and short police showed up and seized the magazines from us for destruction under the premise that they were prohib. Now my understanding of this was only ruger 10/22 magazines were now prohib devices
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As a Canadian gun owner I believe we potentially have a larger issue here than the 10-22 mags. At present we seem to have been set upon by a bureaucrat in the firearms office with an approach which is beyond what the CFR has previously administered. There is a lot of good information on this issue on the CALIBRE Magazine site. The reference "10-22 platform" has been brought in to their references. Where we are at is that a rifle magazine allows a pistol(?) to exceed it's 10 round limit*. If this goes through, what might happen where a pistol magazine allows a rifle (AR platform) to exceed 5 rounds? Might there be a reversal in how the Lar15 is looked at? IMHO the 10-22 is a trial ballon.
Personally I think that to impact 100s of thousands of .22 magazine owners which I think probably only have a plinking rifle and most likely not even a restricted firearm, because a very limited number(less than 500?) of Chargers is beyond stupid.

*We already can exceed 10 rounds via magazine substitution. Will this also get prohibited?

Will we have to pin .22 tube magazines to 10?
 
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