M39 picure thread!!!
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As an aside, Tradex is down to its LAST M39. A decent looking VKT with a couple small surface cracks by the buttplate and a nice hangtag.
ALL of Weimajack's are either "SOLD" or "ON HOLD". Not sure what "ON HOLD" means, but it looks like he's out of them too.
Guess pretty soon, only the P&S guns will be left.
ALL of Weimajack's are either "SOLD" or "ON HOLD". Not sure what "ON HOLD" means, but it looks like he's out of them too.
Guess pretty soon, only the P&S guns will be left.
Spoke to Jean just before all of his M39's were listed on his site and ask him if he had some "sneaks", B barrels or another SkY hidden somewhere which he replied no. Out of the 50 rifles he picked, 49 were '41, '42 and '44 war time and post-war stocked VKT's and only one rarer version the SkY sold to CGN'r Superbee. All the rarer versions were sold by either Tradex or Weimajack.
I picked up W's last B barrel right after you got yours Ron.
I picked up W's last B barrel right after you got yours Ron.
Mine just came today from Weimajack, One of his replies to me was that the rifle was Sako built??? I can't see any marks on it to prove that but I'm not complaining. The rifle is much better than advertised.
The bolt/receiver/bbl/floor plate all match. No numbers on the stock or butt plate. One thing I did notice is that the serial numbers in some of the pics on the receivers are electropenciled. Mine looks to have been stamped in around the same time it was made or refurbished.
The barrel is marked VKT in a blunt diamond and there is a D for the type of ammo it will accept. I think the D is for the type 166, heavy ball. There is an SA mark in a box on the left side of the chamber area and a 1941 date on the top.
The only two marks besides the SN on the receiver are an upside down 3 and a sideways 2. The receiver is hex shaped. All of the screws have sharp ungauled edges and the finish is perfect. The bore is 90% + and measures .3085.
The bolt, even though it bears the same SN on the knob looks like it had the original numbers ground/polished from the body lug. It also has a few different stamps on it. Roman numeral II at the base of the bolt handle on the upper flat and a T in a circle on the bottom. Other part like the rotation ring guide bar have the same T but no circle and an upside down E with a cross on the opposite side. The cocking piece has an R in a circle on the top guide strap but is otherwise bare.
Even part of the old hang tag remains with the SN and VKT mark, held on by some heavy waxed cord.
The stock is perfect, not a ding or scratch anywhere to be found. It has the two finger joint style, which I believe is post war replacement??? No manufacture mark on the stock. Same goes for the metal. The only noticeable wear is on the butt plate and even that is minor.
All in all one of the nicest I have seen in a long time and what I was looking for. My only "ugh" is the export mark.
The bolt/receiver/bbl/floor plate all match. No numbers on the stock or butt plate. One thing I did notice is that the serial numbers in some of the pics on the receivers are electropenciled. Mine looks to have been stamped in around the same time it was made or refurbished.
The barrel is marked VKT in a blunt diamond and there is a D for the type of ammo it will accept. I think the D is for the type 166, heavy ball. There is an SA mark in a box on the left side of the chamber area and a 1941 date on the top.
The only two marks besides the SN on the receiver are an upside down 3 and a sideways 2. The receiver is hex shaped. All of the screws have sharp ungauled edges and the finish is perfect. The bore is 90% + and measures .3085.
The bolt, even though it bears the same SN on the knob looks like it had the original numbers ground/polished from the body lug. It also has a few different stamps on it. Roman numeral II at the base of the bolt handle on the upper flat and a T in a circle on the bottom. Other part like the rotation ring guide bar have the same T but no circle and an upside down E with a cross on the opposite side. The cocking piece has an R in a circle on the top guide strap but is otherwise bare.
Even part of the old hang tag remains with the SN and VKT mark, held on by some heavy waxed cord.
The stock is perfect, not a ding or scratch anywhere to be found. It has the two finger joint style, which I believe is post war replacement??? No manufacture mark on the stock. Same goes for the metal. The only noticeable wear is on the butt plate and even that is minor.
All in all one of the nicest I have seen in a long time and what I was looking for. My only "ugh" is the export mark.
I got my B barrel in the mail a few days ago and finally got to cleaning it up and taking a couple sick pics next to the other Tradex M39 I bought. Notice both have Finn nose caps 
I also thought I'd share my small collection of Finnish Mosin oilers.
From left to right: Late war Army oiler, early Army oiler, and Civil Guard Oiler. Both my early and late army oiler are made by the same manufacturer (listed on the cap), while the Civil Guard oiler is an early model. The same oiler was later made with SkY embossed on it.
The caps: Leftmost has just the maker's mark, the early oiler was crudely stamped SA some time after manufacture to denote Army property, and the SY oiler has been marked for army property twice, once with the early serif SA and a second time wit the later boxed SA.
Closeups:
I also thought I'd share my small collection of Finnish Mosin oilers.
From left to right: Late war Army oiler, early Army oiler, and Civil Guard Oiler. Both my early and late army oiler are made by the same manufacturer (listed on the cap), while the Civil Guard oiler is an early model. The same oiler was later made with SkY embossed on it.
The caps: Leftmost has just the maker's mark, the early oiler was crudely stamped SA some time after manufacture to denote Army property, and the SY oiler has been marked for army property twice, once with the early serif SA and a second time wit the later boxed SA.
Closeups:
Nice B barrel Ron. Got the last one weimajack was holding back. Mine is an early (37893) plum colored barrel that was imported early since the marks (C.A.I. Georgia, VT) is on the right side of the barrel behind the front sight. Didn't have time to remove any cosmo on it. The plum colored barrel that sits underneath all that gunk is stunning tho. I'll manage to get better photos once she's cleaned up.
Harry, I am computer challenged and have never managed to post a pic. Sorry my friend. It's almost identical in condition to the one EHG posted. A few different stamps and no plum color anywhere.
I suspect that the M39 rifles like all Finnish Mosins utilized all the parts they had on hand, without any concern to matching them up by manufacturer. I saw one in Chilliwack this spring with all of the action parts mismatched, even the serial numbers on the bolt and floorplate. It had very little finish left on it other than a brown patina that looked like well oiled rust and a poor bore. There were no import marks on it and it was marked with VKT/SA/B. The asking price on it was $650 and he got something close to it before the first day was over or he traded it for something.
VKT indicates I have a relatively early Valmet assembeled at the #3 Army Weapons Depot as indicated by the upside down 3 on the receiver. Good possibility that this might be a M91 barrel which was not unusual for this date and serial number range from what I can see. Bolt is a hodge podge of parts from different manufacturers including Remington/Tula/Belgium/Tikka/Ishevsk (bolt head??).
I will be taking the rifle apart to clean up the light cosmolene and maybe find out who made the receiver and when. Maybe after I get a new shoulder joint I will get to shoot it.
I suspect that the M39 rifles like all Finnish Mosins utilized all the parts they had on hand, without any concern to matching them up by manufacturer. I saw one in Chilliwack this spring with all of the action parts mismatched, even the serial numbers on the bolt and floorplate. It had very little finish left on it other than a brown patina that looked like well oiled rust and a poor bore. There were no import marks on it and it was marked with VKT/SA/B. The asking price on it was $650 and he got something close to it before the first day was over or he traded it for something.
VKT indicates I have a relatively early Valmet assembeled at the #3 Army Weapons Depot as indicated by the upside down 3 on the receiver. Good possibility that this might be a M91 barrel which was not unusual for this date and serial number range from what I can see. Bolt is a hodge podge of parts from different manufacturers including Remington/Tula/Belgium/Tikka/Ishevsk (bolt head??).
I will be taking the rifle apart to clean up the light cosmolene and maybe find out who made the receiver and when. Maybe after I get a new shoulder joint I will get to shoot it.
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Nice B barrel Ron. Got the last one weimajack was holding back. Mine is an early (37893) plum colored barrel that was imported early since the marks (C.A.I. Georgia, VT) is on the right side of the barrel behind the front sight. Didn't have time to remove any cosmo on it. The plum colored barrel that sits underneath all that gunk is stunning tho. I'll manage to get better photos once she's cleaned up.
Your SA mark is truncated which means tour barreled action was likely first assembled as an m91 and later cut down to an m39. Neat gun.
Your dry stick is likely actually coated in a thin matte lacquer that makes it look dry. Som people advocate not liking these stocks. If you do oil it, I would use a very light hand rubbed Raw Linseed Oil.
The dark tarry finish is not the right finish for a late manufacture stock, and besides, the proper rifle stock oil to get that color is really tough to source.
so many nice looking Rifles, i used up a whole roll of paper towels just to wipe the drool of my face....;-)..and it was bounty too.... im gonna have to learn how to post pics too, as i got a cpl of real nice ones as well....so, who got that other SkY marked M39?
Jacques Langevin kept it for himself.
received mine very nice 1941 VKT also very dark finish ,few handeling marks in the stock numbers on bolt and receiver match,there is a large 5 diget number on the rear sight base that dosent match anything else on the rifle ,what is the sugnificance of this number.it has the import number directly on the underside directly between the barrel and cleaning rod ,hidden from site almost.The rifle is in very good condtion and appear to have seen very little use.Cant post pice right now as i am away from home
Numbers on the rear sight are the range in meters. Numbers under the barrel at the muzzle is the caliber (7.62x54r)
the number on the sight blade are the range,im talking about the larger numbers on the left side of the sight base The markings on the front of the barrel are import markings and are located on the side of the barrel at the very front right hand side.Im saying that that on my rifle they are on the underside of the barrel between the barrel and cleaning rod
Most of the import marks on this batch are on the bottom of the barrel from the front of the stock to the muzzle tip. The import markings someone posted on the side of the muzzle from CAI are an exception. Some of the earliest rifles Pat Burns imported to the US (where these came from) were imported with the assistance of Century Arms in exchange for some of the inventory, back in the late 1990's.
This is what most of them look like from this batch:
The numbers on the left side of the rear sight base are the first digits in 100's of meters so a soldier had a choice to look to the side there instead of poking his head up to read the top of the sight leaf. (i.e. 4 = 400, 8 = 800, etc.)
