3 Gunners
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We always run it the first weekend of October. We've been lucky with the weather but did have some snow last year.
Pack your buddies in the truck and drag your trailer up to the match.
PCFGA Team Match
I will be away with work but, the Team Match has been a hot topic.
Anyone that's been playing the game for a while soon realizes that match fees and ammo are not the biggest expense.
Fuel, hotels, meals and time off work are the things that makes shooting matches expensive.
It's up to each individual to decide what their limit is.
The F-Class championships had PGW giving away a .50 cal rifle as the door prize. Also, a good prize table tends to get a lot of attention. To grow the sport, it would be nice if all of the ranges, in alberta for eg, could play nice, agree on some base rules, hold club level matches, and then hold an annual, or semi-annual, Provincial championship.
A guy can dream right?
A guy can dream right?
The F-Class championships had PGW giving away a .50 cal rifle as the door prize. Also, a good prize table tends to get a lot of attention. To grow the sport, it would be nice if all of the ranges, in alberta for eg, could play nice, agree on some base rules, hold club level matches, and then hold an annual, or semi-annual, Provincial championship.
A guy can dream right?
I would really like to see a club series as well leading up to a championship.
For me the big things would be good stage designs and a good rule set that doesn't have a bunch of silly stuff like not dropping mags and that kind of stuff.
The F-Class championships had PGW giving away a .50 cal rifle as the door prize. Also, a good prize table tends to get a lot of attention. To grow the sport, it would be nice if all of the ranges, in alberta for eg, could play nice, agree on some base rules, hold club level matches, and then hold an annual, or semi-annual, Provincial championship.
A guy can dream right?
I proposed this in a thread a year ago. It's not easy to do, but I think with David (Greenice) no longer doing the lethbridge 3G that we lost a major player in somebody who could help align the sport in the direction it needed to go.
First is common rules. More people are starting to do that.
The rest is volunteer work. Nothing will happen unless a lot of people help. From there, it's just formalisation, planning, and executing. Nothing terribly difficult.
My thoughts were:
1) First, common scoring/rules and tracking. Facilities like practiscore can manage this easily. Everybody would have to use it. Some already do and I'm pushing for CDTSA to adopt it. We used it for PRS.
2) Everybody proceeds as per normal with their local matches. Competitors can join and do as many as they want.
3) Annually have a regional competition, possibly S and N, then have one final one for Alberta where hopefully the top competitors show up. Results for the year can then be compared.
For prizes? Once again, that requires volunteer leg work. Even simple things like saying you compete in 3G / PRS / etc while in the stores helps show that people coming in the door are active shooting competitors. Competitors need lots of gear and lots of ammo. From there it needs people to canvas retailers for prizes and/or involvement. This can be a lot of work and we (CDTSA) simply don't have the people to do it. The more people help, the more can be done.
I know I sound like a broken record, but if you compete and don't help, please consider helping. Simple things can be done which greatly reduces the requirements of match directors and the few volunteers that actually make events happen.
For example, Ryan and I put on the simple PRS match a month ago. This took us 10's of hours each just in management, COF, and approvals. I had a trip or two to Milo for tests and layout, Ryan had a lot more. Ryan also put in lots of hours building props. Greg helped RO the day of the match, etc.
If it weren't for us three, the match wouldn't have happened. Simple as that. I've already mentioned that I will likely not shoot PRS, but will continue to help with the management / COF / sponsorship side of things. Others will need to pick-up the slack. I simply prefer other types of shooting.
Same goes for 3G where set-up is a lot more work. I've already proposed that every member competing must be there early to do complete set-up and tear down. Otherwise they cannot shoot. It's aggressive, but asking people to come out the day before and either drive 3-4 hours over two trips isn't an option for most. Mandatory involvement or turn people away. Guests would be an exception, but member involvement mandatory. I'll like to see this through because once again, 6-12 members put on events for 50-75 competing members. It can't continue like that.
PG will likely follow Lone Butte's recent matches in the coming year. Close enough that we can borrow steel and props if needed. Just getting ideas together. 3gn rules, tablets for practiscore, 10-14 stages 2 day match. Possibly august.
kharlingca
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- Montreal Region, QC
I just drove from QC to KY to shoot the rockcastle 18hrs
For me it was the stages, combination of close and long range targets
We also enjoyed pro clinics
But nothing is more fun than spray and pray targets and then finishing off with 250m long range metal
Having to wait to hear your shot hit is awesome
For me it was the stages, combination of close and long range targets
We also enjoyed pro clinics
But nothing is more fun than spray and pray targets and then finishing off with 250m long range metal
Having to wait to hear your shot hit is awesome
Thank you for your insight. It is a lot of work to put on a great match, so thank you again to all who put in the time and effort.
I am excited for next season.... it appears that a few clubs will be putting on some awesome 2 days matches.
Providing that clubs put out the info/registration for a large match with enough notice for competitors to book time off work/ make arrangements, I really think these bigger events will be a huge success!
You guys get 12 volunteers out to put on a match? Holy ####, that's good.
This is our fourth year of putting on a two day event. The third MP3G two-day of the year. All have been advertised well in advance both here, at the clubs, and on our FB page.
Don't expect piles of folks to beat your door down unless the 2-day is the only match in the area during the season. The attendance at the FSJ and GP two day matches was lower than any single day MP3G event this season. It's hard for folks to commit to the two day during the summer.
Our Team Match has never had more than 60 shooters.
Maybe it will be different in Central/Southern AB due to the higher population.
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For PRS, it was 2 of us. 3rd helped as RO on day of event. I tried a last minute ditch effort for prizes with no luck. WRAS guys helped out a lot on the day of shoot as usual and even brought down prizes without being asked!
3G was 5 or 6.
I'm talking club wide, PRS, 3G, Cowboy, Pistol speed, etc. Now that I think about it, for competitions it's more like 8-10 do all the work.
~1300 members. About 40-60 actively competing in one or more shooting disciplines.
If you wanted to see well run events, Greenice put on a smooth operating 3G event every August. Volunteer work from the kids, 6-10 sponsors, 6-8 stages, active involvement by a lot of members, supplied food and water, etc. Showed how things could improve with more help.
Some clubs never get any "club" involvement in 3 gun. PCFGA is one of those.
It's hard to get more than 4 or 5 guys out to set up on Friday night and we've had to rely on out of town shooters to SO, as we don't have enough locals who'll step up to take on the responsibility.
And the more matches you run, the bigger the problem becomes.
It's one of the reasons I'm not going to MD or SO anything next year. After 10 years of running matches with low volunteer participation, I've had enough. I'm burned out.
Hopefully this year's Peace River Team Match won't be the last, but it won't be my problem regardless.
I am kinda surprised that the big 2 day matches don't have a bigger following. I know that I and, some of my 3 gunning buddies are very interested in these events.
However, I do understand that there is quite a commitment involved for the competitors....
As has been mentioned by others: the cost of fuel, hotel/camping, double the ammo, food, possibly booking time off work, match fees etc etc.
It is likely that only the most dedicated 3 gunners are coming from afar. Are there prizes/trophies for the top finishers?
I do hope that you guys continue to put these on and that they continue to grow!
Scheduling around work, family and holidays makes the two day matches hard to get to, especially in the summer months. It is quite a commitment. I spent more in diesel than I did in ammo to tow the trailer to the last GP two-day.
You need to keep in mind that we draw out of about 150,000 people in the Peace Country. How many are there withing 2 1/2 hours of Calgary or Edmonton? The numbers say you should have larger matches but I haven't really seen that in what I read here.
We did have a couple guys from Edmonton and one from Wainwright at the last GP two-day. 80% of the shooters at the PR team match will be from more than 2 hours away.
In PR we didn't do prizes for the two single-day matches this year, just a raffle draw. The team match will probably have $5000-6000 worth of prizes on the table. We award prizes based on random draw otherwise the same 3 or 4 guys would win everything.
For me, two day matches are a social event more than anything else. Being able to hang our around the campfire until the wee hours drinking rum and eating pork chops is the highlight.
You need to keep in mind that we draw out of about 150,000 people in the Peace Country. How many are there withing 2 1/2 hours of Calgary or Edmonton? The numbers say you should have larger matches but I haven't really seen that in what I read here.
We did have a couple guys from Edmonton and one from Wainwright at the last GP two-day. 80% of the shooters at the PR team match will be from more than 2 hours away.
In PR we didn't do prizes for the two single-day matches this year, just a raffle draw. The team match will probably have $5000-6000 worth of prizes on the table. We award prizes based on random draw otherwise the same 3 or 4 guys would win everything.
For me, two day matches are a social event more than anything else. Being able to hang our around the campfire until the wee hours drinking rum and eating pork chops is the highlight.
