Follow your link to the store, it looks like you probably got the right guide rod, but they are selling the slide stops as being for both the Shadow and the Shadow 2 and they are not the same part that is slightly concerning.
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Is this the guide rod? If so what's the difference between it and the one that comes with the shadow 2?
http://www.ipscstore.eu/en/home/1749-cz-recoil-spring-guide-rod-for-shadow-2-2000000017495.html
http://www.ipscstore.eu/en/home/1749-cz-recoil-spring-guide-rod-for-shadow-2-2000000017495.html
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yes, as I said in my post above, it looks like they are selling the right guide rod, but not the right slide stop. They have the Shadow slide stop listed as being for both the Shadow and the Shadow 2, they are not the same part and the Shadow one will not work in the 2
Slavex, I check my Shadow 2's slide stop and I'm pretty sure that it is exactly the same one pictured at the IPSC store. The Shadow 2 is shipped with 2 slides stops, the low profile one as depicted on the IPSC store which is already installed as well as a larger slide stop with a big thumb rest on it. Why CZ did this, I have no idea.
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Mine only came w/ the installed slide stop. It did however come w/ 2 safeties. Low profile installed and larger spare thumb rest safety. Sounds like you're confusing the safety and slide stop kidcom.
Reason for the 2 safeties are most production shooters prefer the low profile safety as it doesn't get in the way. Others like the larger safety to rest their thumbs on it or for ease of use. On a couple occasions larger safety on my Shadow was accidentally engaged during a match COF which cost me time to disengage. Low profile safety on the Shadow 2 is unlikely to be mistakenly engaged.
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Ooops I think that your absolutely right Northaways. I've got that all wrong. Sorry Slavex if your read this. It looks like your correct about the slide stop issue. Sorry about that as I'm not an IPSC shooter. I just like CZ firearms for their overall excellent quality.
they do look the same, but the shank on the 2 is slightly longer and the spacing on the magazine follower leg thing (I don't know what's called) is different. a regular Shadow slidestop will not let the slide go forward, this was covered in my posts from IWA back in the spring in Germany when I was given the chance to detail photo the 2 at it's premiere.
The shadow 2 is a different gun than the Shadow in that the shadow 2 is .096" thicker than the shadow. This means that slide stop pins and safeties are not interchangeable. The barrel and slide is also longer. The guiderod of the shadow 2 is .168" longer than the shadow and they are NOT interchangeable. It must also be noted that if you are using springs designed for the original shadow that they will be lighter if used in the shadow. If you are using an 11 lb spring designed for the shadow, it will be more like a 10 lb spring as there is a longer length. It is sort of like taking a coil or two off the 11 lb spring to make it lighter. This may cause feeding issues (depending on load) with an already light spring
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Good points abb1.
Can anyone advise what the weight/lbs is on the Shadow 2 factory recoil, hammer and firing pin springs are? Also, anyone know where we can buy CZ OEM lower weight recoil, hammer and firing pin springs as well as extra shock buffers in bulk? Finally, anyone advise if the extended firing pin will work in both Shadow and Shadow 2 and what the advantage is of using an extended firing pin in them? Is it just for extra hard primers?
I have read that the recoil spring is a 13 lbs but it's a SOB to open that slide for me. I have also read the recoil spring is 17 lbs. I think it's just a whole bunch of people assuming stuff going on for a gun that they haven't touched yet.
Does polishing help?
I find the recoil spring to be very hard. Is there a recommendation on changing it? I only use 124gr reloads
There is no way that the 2 has a 13 lb spring. I tested my IPSC loads and the 2 barely ejects them compared to the old Shadow. It's at least a 15 if not a 17. I couldn't find anything anywhere confirming exactly what it was. On a side note, those same loads were going 15-20 fps faster from the 2 then they were from the old gun.
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Would expect the Shadow 2 loads to register slightly faster on the chrono as it has a slightly longer barrel, hence increased velocity.
Sounds like the recoil spring on the 2 is likely 16lbs.
Anyone have an idea what the 2s factory hammer spring and firing pin spring weights are? Lower hammer and firing pin springs would help with the DA pull.
Shot my Shadow 2 at 2 IPSC matches on Sunday. Gun shoots really flat and I love the increased weight, higher grip and increased textured grip.
Kinda finished around same position I typically do with my Shadow. No Mikes and only just clipped 1 NS in the 2 matches, one of which was fairly technical, so likely going to be able to be a lot more accurate with the smaller fibre optic. Flip side though is it may have taken me a fraction longer to acquire the smaller fibre optic. So was sort of a trade off in time for increased accuracy. Thinking once I play with it some more should easily outshoot my old Shadow.
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an 11lb spring is an 11lb spring regardless of the gun you put it in. As the spring is longer than the space it fits in in both guns, it is compressed upon insertion. It is the final compressed length (when the slide is back, that is what matters, and that's the same in both guns (this is from the engineers at CZ by the way).
I ran a 2 in Hungary a few weeks ago with a 6lb recoil spring, beauty to shoot. and shockingly no shockbuff. I wouldn't run my own gun that way though. And yes it was a factory spring as this was one of the proto guns that they released to a few select team members to use. I use an 11lb currently but I'm thinking of getting some 8lbs to try later this winter.
Yes the extended firing pin works in the Shadow 2, whether they really make any difference is something I can't say. I find a lighter firing pin spring is all that's needed, the Rami 2075 one.
I ran a 2 in Hungary a few weeks ago with a 6lb recoil spring, beauty to shoot. and shockingly no shockbuff. I wouldn't run my own gun that way though. And yes it was a factory spring as this was one of the proto guns that they released to a few select team members to use. I use an 11lb currently but I'm thinking of getting some 8lbs to try later this winter.
Yes the extended firing pin works in the Shadow 2, whether they really make any difference is something I can't say. I find a lighter firing pin spring is all that's needed, the Rami 2075 one.
