Testing Criteria for Take Down, back pack, hiking and survival 22 cal rifles

took the Ruger TD and the Henry AR7 out for a function test yesterday with 50 rounds each to make sure both worked and i didnt get one with a obvious from the factory problem.
both ran like tops.
the Lil' Badger ive already had for a few years so i know it runs good, no need to put another 50 through it.

still waiting to see if the Papoose will come on sale at wholesale this month.
if it dosnt ill just bite the bullet and pick it up for full price.
*makes my Scottish blood curl just thinking that!*
 
i was thinking the other day at work.
what might be a interesting test to do is pick up a couple of those metal targets that are small critters.
gopher, partridge kinda thing.
and get a couple of the guys from work and run them all through the guns and see who will go home with hits and who goes home with a empty tummy.

would be interesting to see if one or more of the guns fail for one or more of the people consistently.
 
I like small 22s and am very interested in your testing.
I love my Lil badger and I'm on the fence on a AR7.
Would a Henry mares leg be an acceptable survival rifle? I was/am looking hard at one of those in crapbelas extended boxing week sale
 
wayupnorth said:
i was thinking the other day at work.
what might be a interesting test to do is pick up a couple of those metal targets that are small critters.
gopher, partridge kinda thing.
and get a couple of the guys from work and run them all through the guns and see who will go home with hits and who goes home with a empty tummy.

would be interesting to see if one or more of the guns fail for one or more of the people consistently.
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Would be a fun day, but that is more of a test of who can shoot and who can't.

reliability with all ammo types (.22lr, long, short, shot shells, etc),
weight,
features like built in storage or floating ability (or being able to add a float to it unobtrusively (foam in stock, etc),
accuracy,
packability,
ability to function in different conditions (wet, sandy, freezing, freezing when wet, etc)
ease of takedown or stripping,
ease of cleaning, (tool-less or tools required)
quality of iron sights or ability to mount/dismount optic?
----which begs the question what optic is the best survival optic - my vote goes to something small like the VOMZ 3.5x, or a bushel classic whitetail 1.5-5x both are small and
----lightweight.
 
safehunter said:
I like small 22s and am very interested in your testing.
I love my Lil badger and I'm on the fence on a AR7.
Would a Henry mares leg be an acceptable survival rifle? I was/am looking hard at one of those in crapbelas extended boxing week sale
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the mares leg i shot i found it hard to shoot.
i couldnt shoulder it because of the sawed off stock and i wasnt a big fan of just holding it out and trying to sight down the top of it.
was a fun plinker but i just didnt care for it.
build quality was fantastic.
 
I have a nice Varner Stevens favourite that takes down in secs though it is only a single shot.I also have a US built Springfield m6 scout in 22/410 and it is an accurate little gun with both barrels shooting to the same point of aim
 
Well over the past 30 years I have had a number of take down 22's (a weak spot for me), my list includes a couple Winchester 61's, a 1890, a Remington 12c, norinco jw20 and browning sa 22, a marlin 39, a cz m6, a couple of marlin papooses, and a marlin midget magnum (22mag)......The only one I own now is a ruger takedown and the reason for that is it is fairly cheap, very few parts, no tiny parts (browning), a magazine that is bullet proof, it is stainless and most importantly it has been the most reliable for me. This will be an interesting test that I will definitely follow:)
 
safehunter said:
I like small 22s and am very interested in your testing.
I love my Lil badger and I'm on the fence on a AR7.
Would a Henry mares leg be an acceptable survival rifle? I was/am looking hard at one of those in crapbelas extended boxing week sale
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The Henry Mare's leg .22lr is so mild that a cheek weld is enough to anchor the stock for me. It would also be easy to make a detachable extension or some people buy a full length stock. Lot's of magazine capacity and it will run any .22 ammo you can find.
 
ive set a date for the Marlin Papoose.
if it does not come on sale by the end of the month im gonna get it regardless.
i really want to spend the 2 months or so of winter lock down that is left ripping these guns apart and doing some cold weather testing.
i could end up waiting until September and the Papoose may never come on sale haha!
 
so question.

if i was going to test these guns what would be a better way to test them.
options:
1) run them stock - no cleaning no nothing just out of the box and into the firing line.
2) full take down and cleaning and treating them with G96 then into the firing line.
3) full take down and cleaning and clean up of action and such - smoothing seer/hammer ect, fixing whatever needs fixing to get the gun to top shelf action - then into the firing line.

im kinda thinking #1.
i dont think #3 is practical for most people so wouldnt give a fair 'off the shelf' point of view?
i was kinda thinking of #2 but if i do that then the cold weather testing would be kinda pointless as the G96 would (or should) stop any cold related problems.

so im leaning towards #1 but kinda wanna do #2.

any thoughts anyone?
 
i bought a gopro at a boxing day sale so the video for this test should be a step up from all the others ive done.
but really..... my videos are already pretty damn good, right.
i was kinda thinking of picking up a 2nd and trying to do the editing where i have one camera down range and one at the bench.

is it just me or does anyone else wanna actually see whats being hit while the guns are in action?

i let me wife know what i was doing with all these purchases.
she told me we really need to move back down south so i quit doing these strange things over winter.
 
Can-down said:
The Henry Mare's leg .22lr is so mild that a cheek weld is enough to anchor the stock for me. It would also be easy to make a detachable extension or some people buy a full length stock. Lot's of magazine capacity and it will run any .22 ammo you can find.
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Agreed, I love my mares leg and I can shoot it accurately. I also bought a full length stock for it to swap on for when other people shoot it and for a change once in a while. Love the thing!
 
wayupnorth said:
i bought a gopro at a boxing day sale so the video for this test should be a step up from all the others ive done.
but really..... my videos are already pretty damn good, right.
i was kinda thinking of picking up a 2nd and trying to do the editing where i have one camera down range and one at the bench.

is it just me or does anyone else wanna actually see whats being hit while the guns are in action?

i let me wife know what i was doing with all these purchases.
she told me we really need to move back down south so i quit doing these strange things over winter.
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Split screen with a close up of the target is nice for sure as far as video's go I guess if it's real cold up there you can do some extreme cold tests and try different lubricant's if needed...... :)
 
Interesting thread, always found these rifles calling my name for some reason.
If your still looking for your papoose Barton's has then in stock at $340.00
MARLIN PAPOOSE 70PSS 22 LR 70670
Thanks, now I am down exactly that much, plus tax of course.
Lots of great uses, have the little badger as well, and my first 22, a old Cooey 60.
I will be following this thread......great idea....
 
I would do an accuracy test at 25 and 50yds with open sights on a rest and also free standing.Probably use a SV middle of the road ammo like CCI and aguila.I would also check for function and repeatability on accuracy after assembly and dissasembly.A small light weight 3x9 optic would be nice with the quick removal rings.
 
ive got a buddy heading down south this weekend, he is suppose to snag a Papoose for me and bring it back up on Tuesday so i can get nut deep into this experiment later next week!

if he does get it and bring it up id imagine ill do the hands on of all the guns wed/thur and then out cold weather shooting fri/sat/sun
im on a mini stay-cation so ive got nothing but time on my hands for the next 2 weeks!

only thing is i havnt ordered the optics yet, so the shooting will be open site only for now, ill order optics but they wont be here for probably 10 days - 2 weeks.

but ill swing in and write up as i go.
so first will be the rip apart hands on overview.

giddy with anticipation!

 
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