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Sig Sauer won us army contract
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ChromeArty
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Hmmmm very interesting point. First thing they could do is bring the price of the M9A3 down from gold plated territory!
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Very true. Now that Girsan and Taurus have cheaper versions of their 92 pattern, Beretta really needs to innovate vs. evolve to survive. People will, rightly or wrongly, see the Army's move as an indication that the Beretta is an inferior product compared to the 320.
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I guess they will won't they...
The Navy and Army wanted lighter pistols, not better.
*trigger warning* I would pick a 92 over the 320 any day. That is just my preference folks! All steel, straight recoil from non tiltig barrel design, cartridges enter straight into chamber without the use of a large feed ramp, extremely reliable and proven, lower bore axis than 320.
I have never fired a 320 however... so am only going with what I know. Please don't have a coniption because you happen to own a 320
More likely the results of this competition will take it out of production. The gun, while nice occupies the same shelf space as the 92A1 and 92FS. I doubt there is much demand for all three unless Beretta scores a win with one of the specialty branches of the US Armed Services or some other large LEO department. I really like me new 92A1 but I can see the attraction of the P320 - size and weight alone should put a smile on any soldiers face.
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Tough to say- the army version won't be the same ones out right now. They're not quite the same gun.
I would see them go down.... first off as was already said the army version will be different.
Second sig will tool up to produce a massive amount of these guns. Which means more supply capability. And in turn better pricing.
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Wonder if this will impact the P320 RX entering Canada? Looks like an even longer wait?
I'd rather have the Beretta for recreational use, but its a mediocre duty pistol, with its fat grip, its being rather heavy despite an aluminum frame (only certain special editions have a steel frame), and in not being particularly durable.
The slide mounted safety is also a liability.
Yeah they shoot nice, look nice and are very reliable as long as they're mechanically "fresh", but I think there were better alternatives decades ago let alone now.
Doubt they will take it out of production as its their only vertec in the line up, at least that what I was told when I called last summer to find out about the availability of the G kit. If memory serves me it was built to address any issues/wants/needs the US military had with the M9 ( suppressor, rail, hand size) and hoped it would be a replacement to the M9 for the remainder of the original contact and also curb their desire to even hold a new competition as all the parts, holsters, training, etc were already in place and would basically stay the same. Unfortunately they refused to even evaluate it on the grounds that there were too many changes done to allow the remainder of the M9 contract to be filled using M9A3's under an Engineering Change Proposal (ECP). It was at this point Beretta announced they would be making it available to the civilian market im assuming to recoup some costs, plus there had been no vertec framed 92's in the line up for quite some time. I dont think Beretta even submitted the M9A3 for the competition but went with the APX instead due to the fact that one of the stipulations for the new contract was that it must have a polymer frame.
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What is the actual registered part? Slide, grip or trigger group?The great thing about the P320 is if you get bored of it, you can swap calibers, frames and colours. Here's my pistol. I have two guns in one.
FDE.
Black.
The great thing about the P320 is if you get bored of it, you can swap calibers, frames and colours. Here's my pistol. I have two guns in one.
FDE.
Black.
Great for the private owner but I doubt soldiers becoming bored of their pistols had anything to do with the choice. Nor is it likely soldiers will be allowed to change/modify the weapon in any way.
On another note, I used to think the P320 was ugly; I mean uglier than Glock ugly. All these pictures you guys are putting up are slowly converting me.
Yes. I was referring to civilian use. But why wouldn't it work for soldiers? If the Battled field is desert, you change frames to FDE. Or black for a normal battlefield. A lot cheaper than replacing the entire pistol. Same goes with calibers. Someone may want a 45 acp while another a 9MM. Etc.
I realize the best firearm doesn't always win. It all comes down to price. But they made a great choice with the P320.
I realize the best firearm doesn't always win. It all comes down to price. But they made a great choice with the P320.
I wonder if there will be as easy with the manual safety model.
