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Unless aboriginal hunters are subject to regulation (sooner rather than later), the large ungulate populations( moose and elk) in this country are in serious trouble.
Many areas have already seen big declines in numbers. This is the tip of the ice berg, think of what goes on away from watchful eyes when this is the level of accountability they face and they know it.But hey, it's their right:rolleyes:
 
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Indigenous hunters should be providing for themselves with indigenous methods/equipment and techniques.

Hiding behind the auspices of tradition whilst shooting everything that moves from your truck/quad or snow machine will only result in the loss of these animals for everyone.

Typical government suck & blow policies. 15 taxpayers can't get a bull tag in Ontario but anyone with a status card can shoot anything with zero recourse/accountability. Resource management is meaningless with these variables interfering.

Patrick
 
Unless aboriginal hunters are subject to regulation (sooner rather than later), the large ungulate populations( moose and elk) in this country are in serious trouble.
Yes agreed, I think they are already on the decline because of over hunting by aboriginal hunters and poachers
I think the elders should take the initiative and start controlling the ones who making them all look bad!!
You cannot continue to kill female animals and calves, all through the years, and expect the population to keep up!
 
Yes agreed, I think they are already on the decline because of over hunting by aboriginal hunters and poachers
I think the elders should take the initiative and start controlling the ones who making them all look bad!!
You cannot continue to kill female animals and calves, all through the years, and expect the population to keep up!

you are repeating yourself
 
Politicians in this country will never hold indigenous anything to account. Not with all the social justice warriors, Neil Youngs and bleeding heart media outlets banging their drums and keeping the "white guilt" effigies burning in perpetuity.

Patrick
 
Indigenous hunters should be providing for themselves with indigenous methods/equipment and techniques.

Hiding behind the auspices of tradition whilst shooting everything that moves from your truck/quad or snow machine will only result in the loss of these animals for everyone.

Typical government suck & blow policies. 15 taxpayers can't get a bull tag in Ontario but anyone with a status card can shoot anything with zero recourse/accountability. Resource management is meaningless with these variables interfering.

Patrick


This!
 
Indigenous hunters should be providing for themselves with indigenous methods/equipment and techniques.

Hiding behind the auspices of tradition whilst shooting everything that moves from your truck/quad or snow machine will only result in the loss of these animals for everyone.

Typical government suck & blow policies. 15 taxpayers can't get a bull tag in Ontario but anyone with a status card can shoot anything with zero recourse/accountability. Resource management is meaningless with these variables interfering.

Patrick

Like snaring them or chasing them off cliffs or out onto a frozen lake?
 
Unless aboriginal hunters are subject to regulation (sooner rather than later), the large ungulate populations( moose and elk) in this country are in serious trouble.

There is regulation. It's not total free-for-all. Can you provide your source identifying that the hunt by indigenous persons is un-regulated.

Many areas have already seen big declines in numbers. This is the tip of the ice berg, think of what goes on away from watchful eyes when this is the level of accountability they face and they know it.But hey, it's their right:rolleyes:

And the buffalo did very well, when the settlers came.

Indigenous hunters should be providing for themselves with indigenous methods/equipment and techniques.

Hiding behind the auspices of tradition whilst shooting everything that moves from your truck/quad or snow machine will only result in the loss of these animals for everyone.

Typical government suck & blow policies. 15 taxpayers can't get a bull tag in Ontario but anyone with a status card can shoot anything with zero recourse/accountability. Resource management is meaningless with these variables interfering.

Patrick

Where did they get firearms? Settlers tricking them for their lands.

Everything that moves? Really? I'm sure no other race/culture does any of those things.

You should look at the times before the settlers came, and what the indigenous shared, and how the true traditionals maintained resources. What covenants and agreements that the settlers broke. Do you really think everthing is the way it is now, because of first nations peoples?

Yes agreed, I think they are already on the decline because of over hunting by aboriginal hunters and poachers
I think the elders should take the initiative and start controlling the ones who making them all look bad!!
You cannot continue to kill female animals and calves, all through the years, and expect the population to keep up!

Elders should control them, you say. Maybe the elders of the other races who perpetuate the same actions, should control their younger, also. Awesome plan.

you are repeating yourself

Statistical backup proving the assertion?

Politicians in this country will never hold indigenous anything to account. Not with all the social justice warriors, Neil Youngs and bleeding heart media outlets banging their drums and keeping the "white guilt" effigies burning in perpetuity.

Patrick

So you want the politicians to control a specific race/culture. But not you. Do I have that correct?

Anyone have a single, solid, verifiable statistic, showing that the indigenous poachers, are the root cause of the declines in ungulate populations, in a disproportionate amount as related to poachers of any other race/culture?

Indigenous/First Nations, as well as another number of race/cultures (Ukrainian, Chinese, shall I go on?), were systematically and disproportionately subject to treachery, mistreatment, false imprisonments, and torture, at the hands of those who came to these lands.

Don't like what is going on? Look at the real root of the problem. How things really came about to be like they are today.

Just like personal responsibility and accountability. If something is wrong in your life, there is no one else to blame, but yourself. Took me alot of years to figure that one out, and ACCEPT it as a reality. Not always easy to see, not always easy to accept. But it is reality.

The fisheries worked out very well, under the regulations of the Government. The same Government which also regulates the hunt. Imagine that, if you will.

Sorry, I don't prescribe to the theory that the indigenous peoples of Canada are the root cause of all our problems.

Sincerely,
Pisimawasis

rant over
 
So you want the politicians to control a specific race/culture. But not you. Do I have that correct?

No you have that wrong. The politicians already control specific races and cultures differently, that is the problem.

Until EVERYONE is treated equally in this country, there will be no progress, and none of these issues will be resolved.

R.

Sad but true. If you are a Canadian citizen and live in Canada, you should have every opportunity that every other Canadian has. You should also have the same set of rules to play by.
 
That's the right answer ---Treat everybody equally --then there is none of this racial prejudice to worry about- everybody equally

Racism and prejudice is an unfortunate part of being an animal on this planet. Being different than the majority is seldom a good thing in any species.
The true context of my statement does have to do with equality. In order to truly be equal, then everyone, regardless of differences, must be treated the same way, and therefore be governed by the same laws. Constantly managing to exceptions only builds racism and prejudice, while doing nothing to discourage it.

R.
 
No you have that wrong. The politicians already control specific races and cultures differently, that is the problem.



Sad but true. If you are a Canadian citizen and live in Canada, you should have every opportunity that every other Canadian has. You should also have the same set of rules to play by.

This is exactly the point I'm trying to make.

R.
 
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