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Sunchild2071 said:
There is regulation. It's not total free-for-all. Can you provide your source identifying that the hunt by indigenous persons is un-regulated.



And the buffalo did very well, when the settlers came.



Where did they get firearms? Settlers tricking them for their lands.

Everything that moves? Really? I'm sure no other race/culture does any of those things.

You should look at the times before the settlers came, and what the indigenous shared, and how the true traditionals maintained resources. What covenants and agreements that the settlers broke. Do you really think everthing is the way it is now, because of first nations peoples?



Elders should control them, you say. Maybe the elders of the other races who perpetuate the same actions, should control their younger, also. Awesome plan.



Statistical backup proving the assertion?



So you want the politicians to control a specific race/culture. But not you. Do I have that correct?

Anyone have a single, solid, verifiable statistic, showing that the indigenous poachers, are the root cause of the declines in ungulate populations, in a disproportionate amount as related to poachers of any other race/culture?

Indigenous/First Nations, as well as another number of race/cultures (Ukrainian, Chinese, shall I go on?), were systematically and disproportionately subject to treachery, mistreatment, false imprisonments, and torture, at the hands of those who came to these lands.

Don't like what is going on? Look at the real root of the problem. How things really came about to be like they are today.

Just like personal responsibility and accountability. If something is wrong in your life, there is no one else to blame, but yourself. Took me alot of years to figure that one out, and ACCEPT it as a reality. Not always easy to see, not always easy to accept. But it is reality.

The fisheries worked out very well, under the regulations of the Government. The same Government which also regulates the hunt. Imagine that, if you will.

Sorry, I don't prescribe to the theory that the indigenous peoples of Canada are the root cause of all our problems.

Sincerely,
Pisimawasis

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You forgot to bring up residential schools.
 
Their hunting right is guaranteed by the treaties they signed with the Crown which is unique to this group of people. It's the law, and not to be misconstrued as inequality.

Section 35. (1) of The Constitution Act of Canada, which is the supreme law of Canada states -

RIGHTS OF THE ABORIGINAL PEOPLES OF CANADA

35.(1) The existing aboriginal and treaty rights of the aboriginal peoples of Canada are hereby recognized and affirmed.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/Const/page-16.html
 
Slamfire said:
Their hunting right is guaranteed by the treaties they signed with the Crown which is unique to this group of people. It's the law, and not to be misconstrued as inequality.

Section 35. (1) of The Constitution Act of Canada, which is the supreme law of Canada states -

RIGHTS OF THE ABORIGINAL PEOPLES OF CANADA

35.(1) The existing aboriginal and treaty rights of the aboriginal peoples of Canada are hereby recognized and affirmed.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/Const/page-16.html
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It is an inequality, as all are not treated equally. It says so in the title.

R.
 
Slamfire said:
Nope. It's a deal they signed with the Crown.
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That deal keeps all Canadians from being equal under the law, so it promotes inequality and racism.

That being the case, that deal does not make it legal for treaty individuals to trespass without permission as happened in this instance. That deal also doesn't make it legal for an individual prohibited from possessing firearms to use a firearm while hunting. He violated a federal offense, and should get jail time, but I seriously doubt that it will happen.
 
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Slamfire said:
Nope. It's a deal they signed with the Crown.
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stubblejumper said:
That deal keeps all Canadians from being equal under the law, so it promotes inequality and racism.

That being the case, that deal does not make it legal for treaty individuals to trespass without permission as happened in this instance. That deal also doesn't make it legal for an individual prohibited from possessing firearms to use a firearm while hunting. He violated a federal offense, and should get jail time, but I seriously doubt that it will happen.
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That's the deal as it applies to them, and that's the law. Tough noogies. :p
 
Slamfire said:
That's the deal as it applies to them, and that's the law. Tough noogies. :p
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That is the whole problem, and get's us back to the original statement of equality, no?
"tough noogies" about all the stuff in Sunchild2071's post?
It goes both ways, and it shouldn't, right?

R.
 
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nomad 68 said:
Everyone should be governed under the same rules and regulations. Treated the exact same. Equally "REGULATED" in the name of conservation.it's 2017 for crying out loud.
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This is 100% correct . Our Game & Fish Departments & those "UNLICENCED" hunters should all be ashamed of themselves .
The families of the "Unlicensed Hunters " also should be ashamed of themselves .
Better still ,,,,,,,,,, arrest them all & throw away the key.

Are they going to say , 1 day ,,,,,,,,,, " Maybe we should have done something ? " ,,,,,,,,,, Frank
 
Slamfire said:
That's the deal as it applies to them, and that's the law. Tough noogies. :p
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It will be tough noogies if those scumbags ever trespass on our family property without permission. I can guarantee you, that they will face charges, and that might be the least of their worries. We have always allowed licensed hunters to access our land , as have the neighbors, but no license, no access. Actually more and more landowners are adopting that policy.
 
Sunchild2071 said:
There is regulation. It's not total free-for-all. Can you provide your source identifying that the hunt by indigenous persons is un-regulated.



And the buffalo did very well, when the settlers came.
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Regulated!?No license, no tags, no harvest report, hunt at night and now tresspassing on private property, where's the regulated part?! Wow. And yes they did, and that justifes that kind of unregulated 'hunting' today?
 
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