Handgun skeet

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Trinimon said:
Unless you're standing a couple yards from the pigeon, you're not going to break any from a standard trap/skeet range with a pistol shooting shot ammo. Effective distance of a 410ga #4 shot from a handgun (Taurus Judge) is only 3yrds. Best effective distance is with defensive shot shells which is only 10yrds.
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Thats what I was thinking too. I just got into this sport.. loads of fun.. but with proper equipment. At the place i shoot the want over 21" barrels. And the pigeon goes out at about 25 yards.
 
I read years ago, about a challenge in the USA called "one in a row".

Basically you shot one "clay" with a T/C contender "pistol" with a 410 barrel installed.

Sounded like fun.
 
stubblejumper said:
Are all of their ranges approved for restricted? Just because one range is approved for restricted, does not mean that all ranges at the facility are approved for restricted. You need to look at the approvals for each specific range.
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I'd have to agree with this, even if you had a rifle/handgun area and a shotgun area on the same property, they are considered individual ranges. This is why they have there own signage and safety rules, etc.
 
I suspect that something like a .410 Backpacker with 12" full choked barrel would shoot a dense enough pattern with a 3" shell and #8 shot to break clays at 20 -25 yards.
 
Agreed, just like Valleyview has only one specific firing position for 338 Lapua.

None of the ranges I member at have any form of broad safety rule for all. Your standard firearm safety, without saying. All have different designated areas for different shooting, with some exception on multi-use areas.

Post above "one in a row"; so at least the idea/concept is not that far out there. Between that and the Montana oil rig example.

Fairly confident that from the outset of the original idea, a safely compliant final version, will look a little different. Appreciate the brainstorming input here.

Note to self - It seems to work way better when I don't just hijack into a thread!
 
You would need a gun with a smooth barrel. Rifled barrels turn shot patterns into donut shaped patterns.

Some ranges are approved for all types of firearms. Any range that does 3-gun competitions is approved for all three. Depends on the club if they want you launching clays there or not.
 
Best to read the range authorization very carefully. Might or might not cover trap shooting with a pistol.
 
I recommend starting out going to trap and skeet clubs a couple times first with a "normal" shotgun so you know a bit more about trap and skeet before you go off the beaten trail.

I have shot clays with a taurus judge, it is fun, but so is shooting 25s at trap and skeet the conventional way.

Slightly off topic, but you seem under the impression that trap and skeet are too easy, because people shoot 25's. Most dont do it all that often, and those that do put in serious effort to get the ability. Not to say your idea shouldnt be done, just give the sports a chance as they are as well.

PS, i will look into a place you can maybe do this, where are you located?

PPS, look into a 410 reloader if you plan to do this much unless you are independently wealthy.
 
Gatehouse said:
You would need a gun with a smooth barrel. Rifled barrels turn shot patterns into donut shaped patterns.

Some ranges are approved for all types of firearms. Any range that does 3-gun competitions is approved for all three. Depends on the club if they want you launching clays there or not.
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A three gun range may not have approval for aerial targets. It might be tough to find a range approved for shooting clays, and for restricted firearms.
 
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Scar270 said:
I recommend starting out going to trap and skeet clubs a couple times first with a "normal" shotgun so you know a bit more about trap and skeet before you go off the beaten trail.

I have shot clays with a taurus judge, it is fun, but so is shooting 25s at trap and skeet the conventional way.

Slightly off topic, but you seem under the impression that trap and skeet are too easy, because people shoot 25's. Most dont do it all that often, and those that do put in serious effort to get the ability. Not to say your idea shouldnt be done, just give the sports a chance as they are as well.

PS, i will look into a place you can maybe do this, where are you located?

PPS, look into a 410 reloader if you plan to do this much unless you are independently wealthy.
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Again, nice to see I'm not alone in the thought. Good to hear from someone who has done it!

For a little clarity, I'm not downplaying the effort it takes for some to get those 25's, or at least not meaning to.

For me, it's like an AIT exam. Under each trade, they have a collective bank of exams. Purpose is to keep exams random, reduce possibilities of cheating, and have exams in reserve. If a person achieves 100%, the exam is then removed out of the system. Another one from the reserve is brought up. Deemed as a fault or error, as the exams are also specifically designed to be unable to attain 100%, without an act of sheer luck, or cheating. How do I know this? I scored 100% on one of their exams (without cheating). Was explained the process on follow up, as I can assure you that they definitely look into if you cheated.

In a similar thought process, 25/25 has been achieved. I can't top that. Therefore, change it up.

As for location, I move around a bit for work. For the remainder of this year, I'm either out SW of Edmonton (home - Calmar-Thorsby-Wizard Lake area) or in Grande Prairie (work).

And not just 410 reloader. On another front, I'm studying up what I can about reloading. Have a few calibres to consider. I make more than enough, but time for reloading has come. (I am also OCD about not leaving brass (or anything) behind, when shooting, or anywhere in the outdoors. I have a pile of empty brass separated as to what is was fired from. Time to reload. The pile is getting a bit out of hand.
 
Gatehouse said:
Maybe, maybe not. Might depend what your backstop is, and how the shotgun template fits into the range.
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The action range would have to have the necessary shot fall clearance from any other range, clubhouse etc. And without fixed thrower positions that can only throw in certain directions, the range would require that 275-300 yard clearance in all directions.
 
Trinimon, now that is what I'm talking! And at the same time, not so much.

Since I see a need for using both the 45 and the 410 in that, the challenge would be safe backstop. But damn! That does look fun.

Take out the part that would make it more challenge (legally/procedurally), and just seeing his "thrower" and relative speed of the clays/skeets, angle used, etc., that is starting to look really viable!

I have a longer barrel than the model shown, which I would say is marginal advantage.

Nice find on the video clip!
 
stubblejumper said:
The action range would have to have the necessary shot fall clearance from any other range, clubhouse etc. And without fixed thrower positions that can only throw in certain directions, the range would require that 275-300 yard clearance in all directions.
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I understand that clearances must be maintained. Some ranges this would be no problem.
 
Ok. I scanned all the posts so far. I did not truly read each one carefully so don't roast me if this has been said before.

I think the idea is intriguing but I don't think it's likely to be allowed on a range for multiple reasons. I'm going to list them but keep in mind I'm no expert and I shoot in southern Ontario.

First of all and the most obvious one is you want to take a handgun onto a shotgun range possibly with no berms.

Second is your firearm of choice is capable of shooting something other than a shot shell. I was told that if a guy wanted to shoot his savage model 24 on the skeet field he would have to permanently disable the .22 barrel. Again just what I heard.

Someone here mentioned shooting #4 shot to be more effective. You are not allowed to shoot larger than 7.5 shot target load on a skeet/trap field.

Lastly, depending on your club and cfo you may not even be able to uncase a restricted firearm outside of the handgun range.

My suggestion would be go somewhere with no eyes and grab a box of shells and a hand thrower.
 
stubblejumper said:
Slow targets coming right towards the shooter, so they can be shot at only a few yards, virtually nothing in common with skeet other than the clay targets.
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Well that and the incorrect nomenclature, referring to clay targets as "skeets". Now I know why the OP got bent out of shape in the other thread, he meant the clay targets, not the discipline. They would have to be shot at very close as seen in the video as the effective range is probably 5 yards or less. The video proves one thing though. Shooting regulations are much more relaxed south of the border. One can only wish to be that "free" here in Canada.
 
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