Sks rusted after shooting Norinco non corosive ammunition. Anyone experience this?

[nick237]

Here here. The hottter the water the faster it dries

 

[Military Surplus Lover]

If you were shooting at an outdoor range and it was cool out you could have developed moisture from temperature change then stored it. This could have caused the issue whether you were using non corrosive ammo or not.

I was shooting out doors but what just surprises me is that I have done the same thing for years with the Sks rifle and never experienced it with non corosive ammo. Just surprises me to develop that much rust in a quick period of time.

 

[Deathrawt]

The reason it took so long to clean is that oil does not dissolve salt. All the barrel needed was some water on a patch. I pour some boiling water down the barrel and then clean normally. Easy and fast and 100% effective on salt.

I've never used water in my barrels before and never had rust issues in the past. Maybe if I shoot the tracers again I should try the boiling water trick to see if it helps. Normally use hoppes to clean my barrels but I use lots and multiple patches of the stuff and it always worked good

 

[bmac487]

I have taken my SKS to the range to shoot numerous times. I always clean it when I get home. My first time I pulled the dust cover and bolt and looked down the barrel to see what the corrosive talk was all about and that has become a habit when disassembling since. Twice after shooting in weather that started comfortable and then got chilly I could actually see water beads in the barrel when disassembling after I got home. I use corrosive ammo only for my SKS. On the days that I saw water beading in the barrel, my shotgun and .22 had the same thing just a little less. Something to look for anyway. I ran boiling water through the barrel once as a friend suggested it after using corrosive. I don't suggest that unless you are checking on your gun(s) often to prevent corrosion. If moisture finds anyplace to hide it will spread easy. I know this because i had to deal with it. There are no shortcuts to good maintenance. I have always used plenty of patches with cleaner and a good amount of oil for storage without any problems.

 

[Dangphool]

I have seen much worse, that will clean up ok and the rifle will be fine, make sure you take apart the bolt and remove the firing pin to clean, the gas piston just needs to soak in oil or eds red or balistol overnight and you can tap it out!
I was sold Czech 1200 round ammo as non corrosive about 4 years ago by a supposed reputable dealer here ( not Canam ) my bad I was fairly new with x39 so I got soaked and extra $150 for Czech corrosive, still have it and the price has now come up to match what I paid! If you don't want your sks, I will buy it! Cheers Bob.

I also have 3 or 4 crates of that 12rd czech stuff and again, never any issues shooting it through the Vz... do we know for certain it's corrosive?

As for the Norinco, I've put nearly a crate of it through my AR since March and I've cleaned it once or twice (maybe 3x) this summer. Being in sub-saharan Alberta probably helps but I've not had any rust issues with this stuff. I pay the extra because I'm lazy so the possibility of bad batches makes me sad.

 

[Military Surplus Lover]

I also have 3 or 4 crates of that 12rd czech stuff and again, never any issues shooting it through the Vz... do we know for certain it's corrosive?

As for the Norinco, I've put nearly a crate of it through my AR since March and I've cleaned it once or twice (maybe 3x) this summer. Being in sub-saharan Alberta probably helps but I've not had any rust issues with this stuff. I pay the extra because I'm lazy so the possibility of bad batches makes me sad.

It could be possible that there are bad batches. That shouldn't happen with non corosive in just 2 weeks. Never has with any of my other non corosive stuff

 

[Winchester-1897]

I do not trust any CommBloc or Chinese stamped surplus or non- surplus ammo, even if they say non-corrosive right on the box.

If it’s not brass cased and made in the USA, it’s corrosive as far as I’m concerned! And I scrub my guns accordingly.

^^^what he said^^^^^

 

[05RAV]

Quote Originally Posted by 05RAV View Post
Same here. I just use pure Ballistol for cleaning the SKS/Mosin parts after shooting. No need for any water or even urine. Never had any problems with rust. Some people are, indeed, fixated on using water in their SKSs.

LOL! You can dump anything you want down your barrel. Just about anything with water in it will work. However, nothing works better than boiling hot water. Nothing is cheaper than boiling hot water. Here endeth the lesson.

I'm not sure about what "lesson" are you talking about? I've never ever used water and never will on my surplus SKS's and Mosin's. They are in an absolutely immaculate condition. Not even one speck of rust. All I'm saying is that with pure Ballistol there is no need for water whatsoever. Surely, Ballistol is more expensive than water but the cost is still so miniscule that I don't really care.
Obviously, you are free to use water if you wish so.

 

[In The Black]

Ok M.S.L I've put my stuff on a nail too. Also did '85 vintage Chinese and new MFG Barnaul, for the sake of comparison.

ITB

 

[Winchester-1897]

must be a slow day.........Boiling water or Balistol. It is like Deja Vu all over again. Now I know for sure 05RAV works for Balistol.

 

[05RAV]

must be a slow day.........Boiling water or Balistol. It is like Deja Vu all over again. Now I know for sure 05RAV works for Balistol.

That's why I'm so rich that I can afford to flush my guns with Ballistol!

 

[Winchester-1897]

That's why I'm so rich that I can afford to flush my guns with Ballistol!

I need a loan, how about it big guy?

 

[Grock-co]

SKS's and rust go hand in hand, must be something in the metallurgy, just a fact of life

 

[Bubba Yugga]

SKS's and rust go hand in hand, must be something in the metallurgy, just a fact of life

Negative. Blast of hot water and regular clean after that. No rust. Not ever. If you get rust, you're f'n up big time.

 

[bobdbldr]

LOL! You can dump anything you want down your barrel. Just about anything with water in it will work. However, nothing works better than boiling hot water. Nothing is cheaper than boiling hot water.

Here endeth the lesson.

Testify brother, why dump expensive cleaner down the pipe when steaming hot water works better, then just clean as usual!

 

[bobdbldr]

SKS's and rust go hand in hand, must be something in the metallurgy, just a fact of life

No rust on any of mine, ever, maybe mold in your house or something! Perhaps use hotter water when flushing the parts!

 

[Tyler]

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I always run water down the bores. The water neutralizes the corosive salts and then clean using solvents. Then I oil it back up put it in the safe and all good. Just trying to pin down the reason why it rusted so much this time around

CLP does it, too.

Much quicker just to clean it using the same methods I do on any other rifle, rather than messing about with kettles and funnels. Been there, done that: no need.

 

[nick237]

I need a loan, how about it big guy?

I like money! How about 1% fixed on 20 grand for five years ? That should cover inflation for you ? Bitcoin hearmenow!

 

[In The Black]

M.S.L, How did your test turn out?


ITB

 

[Military Surplus Lover]

M.S.L, How did your test turn out?


ITB

Well I checked it last night and no rust yet. I will check again later. I'm kinda confused at this point. I don't know if I
Got it wet somehow, which I don't believe I did or if there was one round of corosive ammo in that batch or a couple rounds even. I wished I saved one round from the last 2 boxes I had fired because I had bought a 600 round case and then a couple months later bought 2 more boxes and the time and used those two boxes when it rusted. I'll look again tonight and update.