SKS vs type 81
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I'd still take 5 Russian SKS for the same price as a new T81. Just not enough real world shooting improvement for me. Detachable mag is really the only benefit, and that becomes moot with our 5 round limits anyway...(give me 30 round mags and I'd be in for sure).
Pistol grip? Meh... don't care really. Sights? Too similar (and both crappy), and no real optic solution for either platform.
I wonder if a guy could put a 7.62x39 rifle together out of one of those Macabee sets...
Pistol grip? Meh... don't care really. Sights? Too similar (and both crappy), and no real optic solution for either platform.
I wonder if a guy could put a 7.62x39 rifle together out of one of those Macabee sets...
Lobster_pot
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I’m seriously considering doing just that with my set.
50 yards too it looks like.
Like I said, unsupported shooting from an individual is no way to be a "definite" accuracy determination.
My sks trumps both of those groups at 100 properly shot.
Nope, those groups of 4" at 100 definitely dont look like the groups of 8" (maybe bigger) at 50...
Winner 858 lol
OP im sorry if it seems like you are being picked on but you had to know you where going to be criticized when uploading this.
Especially when doing the ever so controversial topic of 81 vrs sks.
Then not even coming close to trying to make it as "even" or "unbiased" as possible by from shooting in a supported position or from bags.
You even said "mostly me" and "this doesn't prove anything and im a lousy shot" lol
Rate of fire was similar at least. 16 seconds for sks 18 seconds for 81
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I'll look if I can find some targets but grouping with my 858 looked like the one from the T81.
100m
Prone position
Chinese corrosive ammo
Not 100% sure if your pics are the 858 or 81, doesn't matter, you said they perform the same.
Thanks for proving the 81 is just as good if not better than any other detachable mag fed pistol gripped 7.62x39 bullet hose we can get.
angrysoldier
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Please feel free to post your own review. This was unbiased review but not scientific in any way. I usually shoot better but due to a pretty bad storm bearing down on us here in the east coast I didn't want to spend all day at the range. As I said feel free to get out on your own time and please post a video. I know all those cgn operators and snipers need some material to pleasure themselves to.
Cheers
Angry
858 groupings @ 100m in the prone position. I don't own a T81 yet
A friend of mine owns a T81. He is wondering if you guys are finding much difference in group size and point of impact between Canadian tire Barnaul FMJ vs SP vs Czech military surplus and Chinese non corrosive FMJ ?
Great info here: https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/776009-Range-Report-8-different-7-62x39
Personally, i find chinese corrosive copper washed to be the most accurate in the rifle I own
So what real world improvement are you expecting from a surplus type rifle shooting surplus ammo?
I guess what you're saying is that anyone who has bought a T-81, an 858 or a 58 is stupid because none of them shoot much better than an SKS? By that logic anyone who buys a high end AR is a dope as well since they hardly shoot any better than a Core, S&W, or Windham and cost 2-3× more.
I already have a nice Russian SKS and I have way more fun shooting my T-81.
What's wrong with owning more than one rifle that does the same thing as another rifle? Even if it costs 3x as much but doesn't shoot any better it's still a lot more fun to shoot. Why do people own multiple AR's? Dumb? Or do they just like the platform and want a little variety without wandering too far?
You could easily put together a MacDef in x39 but it's not going to magically shoot 1 moa just because it's in a different platform. It will probably shoot a little better than a T-81 and you'll be into it for $2000 +/-, you'll have to be the judge of whether or not that's enough real world performance improvement for the increased cost. You could also look at the M10x if you want a slight improvement in performance over a T-81. At least both of those are optic friendly so you should see an improvement in accuracy.
I have a 1951 matching SKS that looks like new, with a lose stock. From a sand-bag at 100 yards (without my prescription safety glasses where the black bullseye was but a grey blur in the middle of the paper) Chinese corrosive had more power then the Barnaul and grouped tighter 4-5" vs 8-10 for the Barnaul. Is that Chinese stuff ever flipping dirty though, the residue looks like a mixture of used diesel engine oil and back-road dust (I think mineral coal may be an ingredient in that Chinese powder LOL). Gunzilla dissolves and it just runs right out of the rifle.
Only Czech surplus stuff I have every used was in a Tokarev; very clean, consistent and powerful.
I am going to try again when I can see what I'm aiming at; but if it were a deer, it would be a dead deer.
Big JD-From the hills
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I find with the generally poor triggers on mil rifles, a pistol grip helps allot with trigger controll wile shooting in the field. My 858 that I had years ago was no more accurate than my sks off the bench, but I had allot more success in the field taking several coyotes and deer. The 858 would not feed soft point brass cased ammo reliably however... got rid of it.
Lol, yah im far from an operator. I like to sit at my bench or lay on the pig pen and take my time printing groups.
Im just saying if you are comparing accuracy it would be nice to ensure that the "human" factor is limited. Shooting from a sled or bags helps mitigate the human error portion.
Really we all know there is no difference between the two rifles lmao
angrysoldier
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human factor was limited. shot one rifle after another. neither was treated diffrent. please show me how you would do better? im waiting for your videos and pics?
