Marihuana at Hunting Camp.

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it all makes sense why these guys fight so goddam hard to keep drugs in their system ... imagine them at your camp for 1-2 weeks drying out from their addiction ! ya detoxing a junky at hunt camp, just like drying out a drunk

Marijuana Withdrawal Symptoms : ( taken from addiction center.com )
headaches or restlessness. On the other hand, those with severe forms of marijuana addiction may endure more intense withdrawal symptoms, including sweating, fever, chills and hallucinations. Anxiety
Depression, Mood changes, Irritability, Stomach pains, Loss of appetite ,Nausea,Insomnia

good times at camp detox !!! LOL

here from narconon

Marijuana Effects
Compulsive eating, bloodshot and squinty red eyes (may have trouble keeping them open), dry mouth, excessive and uncontrollable laughter, forgetfulness, short-term memory loss, extreme lethargy, delayed motor skills, occasional paranoia, hallucinations, laziness, lack of motivation, stupidity, sickly sweet smell on body, hair and clothes, and strong mood changes and behaviors when the person is “high.”

Yah, a real pretty picture

i have recently quit using cannabis (prescribed by my doctor) cold turkey after 14 years of fairly heavy daily use, it has been a couple weeks now and i have yet to experience any of these nasty symptoms you mention. in fact it has been quite the opposite. only mood change that i have experienced has been that I'm in a better mood more often.
it is a walk in the park. its literally harder for me to cut carbs
i think if there i someone in your camp with these symptoms there is more in they're system then just grass.

somehow i don't think narcanon or addiction centre has the most unbiased and accurate information by the sounds of things

its comparable to huffington posts knowledge about firearms and the people who love them.. all nonsense
 
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I used to do a lot of work for a non-profit harm reduction organization. I have worked with addicts of all kinds and I can say this beyond a shadow of a doubt: marijuanna addiction is a farse. It isn't a real thing. Period.
 
No, they pretty much leave us alone. I've accidentally left my wallet on the dash of my unlocked truck a few times and no one touches it. A couple of years ago a few fishing rods and an outboard motor went missing from docked boats, but that was quickly shut down. . Generally around here, most things are dealt with "in house". In a town of 200 people, everyone knows everyone. No one tolerates trouble(like in many other places).
The inmates at the old inn don't bother you?
 
I used to do a lot of work for a non-profit harm reduction organization. I have worked with addicts of all kinds and I can say this beyond a shadow of a doubt: marijuanna addiction is a farse. It isn't a real thing. Period.

This! i strongly agree
its all in the mind of the user, all one has to do is break the routine and occupy yourself with something else.
 
This! i strongly agree
its all in the mind of the user, all one has to do is break the routine and occupy yourself with something else.

Agreed. The reported "addictive" properties of cannabis are really a dependency issue which comes from the mind and habits of the user. While I acknowledge some users have had a difficult time giving up their habit, this is not at all the same as physical addiction.
 
this was posted over a year ago and the number of liberals joining this list has grown exponetially since.
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Anne McLellan is the head of the Federal Liberal Marijuana Legalization Task Force, appointed by Justin Trudeau.

Anne McLellan is engaged by the law firm Bennett Jones LLP, that describes itself as a ‘very entrepreneurial law firm’ that wants to be the ‘go to’ law firm for licensed producers (LPs) of marijuana in Canada.

This is what should disqualify McLellan for the appearance of a conflict of interest. But then Justin Trudeau was first introduced to “legalization” by Tweed Marijuana licensed producer cofounder Chuck Rifici, who has gotten rich as a consequence of his investment in his LP, and who has been agitating for all competing dispensaries and cannabis sellers to be arrested and shut down. Rifici is also the chief financial officer of the Liberal Party of Canada. McLellan’s place of employment openly seeks licensed providers to represent while she maintains impartiality on this task force.

And it’s not just the chairperson of the Task Force who is facing a conflict of interest. A long list of Liberal Party insiders and government officials connected to the cannabis economy has been circulating around social media:

Chuck Rifici, is currently the CFO of the Liberal Party of Canada. – founder and former CEO of Tweed
Mark Zekulin, CEO of Tweed – former senior adviser to former Ontario finance minister Dwight Duncan
Norman Inkster, Independent Director at Mettrum – former head of the RCMP
Dr. Joshua Tepper, Independent Director at Mettrum – formerly Assistant Deputy Minister at the Ministry of Health , Senior Medical Officer for Health Canada,
Tom Shipley, Director of Quality Assurance, Tweed – formerly worked on toxicology research, while at Health Canada,
Mike Harcourt, Chairman of True Leaf Medicine Inc – former B.C. Premier
Kash Heed, strategic consultant with National Green BioMed – Former B.C. Solicitor General and former West Vancouver police chief
Herb Dhaliwal, Chairman, National Green BioMed – former Vancouver MP and federal cabinet minister.
Neil Belot, Board of Directors for Aurora – was a public servant in several ministries within the Ontario government
Brian Wagner, Company founder and CEO of NHP Consulting (consults for prospective LP’s) – Brian was invited to play a strong role in Health Canada’s Program Advisory Committee
Tim Humberstone, ABcann Director / Senior Person in Charge – former twenty year member of the RCMP included roles in Municipal/Federal Drug Enforcement and with the Joint Forces Organized Crime Agency. Tim has also received extensive training by the RCMP in providing expert court opinion in the fields of cannabis trafficking and production techniques.
Ivan Vrana, founder of Aslan Ross Consulting / speaker mmpr summit – Previously Mr. Vrána worked for the Federal Government for over 15 years. He worked at the Patented Medicine Prices Review Board, Finance Canada and in various senior policy positions at Health Canada. At Health Canada he was in charge of the team that developed the policy rationale which led to the implementation of the Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations. Mr. Vrána is also a regular Lecturer at both Carleton and Concordia universities and teaches a course that examines the internal communication tools governments use to development and implement public policy.
Sandy Pratt, Chief Financial Officer, Emerald Health – Worked at Deloitte (auditing firm involved in the senate scandal), Vice President of Business Development and Executive Financial Officer of the Royal British Columbia Museum, a Crown corporation.
Shane Morris, VP, Scientific Affairs and Stakeholder Relations Hydropothecary CEO (now Canadian Cannabis Corp.) – Since 2000 Shane has been in a range of leadership roles within the Federal Government, from Treasury Board of Canada’s senior advisor (Cabinet Operations) on regulatory affairs to director of policy leadership and Reporting for Resources Canada’s major projects management office.
George Smitherman, THC BioMed – former Ontario Liberal Deputy Premier with more than 30 years in public policy fields at the Municipal, Provincial and Federal Level, where roles as Senior Advisor, Minister of Energy and Infrastructure and Ontario’s Minister of Health were held.
Jake Ryan, Director of Security: Tilray – former RCMP Intelligence Officer and federal criminal investigator overseeing all aspects of Tilray’s security protocols and operations.
Ernie Eves, Chairman, Timeless Herbal Care, a Jamaican medical marijuana company – former Progressive Conservative premier of Ontario
Kim Derry, a promoter of marijuana facility THC Meds Ontario Inc. – Deputy chief of the Toronto Police Service under Mr. Blair.
John Reynolds, advisor to Vodis Innovative Pharmaceuticals Inc – former MP with the Progressive Conservative, Reform and Canadian Alliance parties
Senator Larry Campbell, advisor to Vodis Innovative Pharmaceuticals Inc. – former Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer and Vancouver mayor. And sitting Senator.
Barry Daniel, Wildflower’s head of security – Former Abbotsford police chief.
Cam Battley, Aurora Senior Vice President, Communications and Medical Affairs – Former Legislative Assistant to the Canadian Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs, where he was responsible for developing legislation and steering it through the House of Commons, as well as negotiating with Opposition parties and stakeholder groups.
John Turner, medicinal marijuana applicant in Ontario (With Kash Heed) – Former Prime Minister of Canada.
The Toronto Sun has fact-checked and published part of the list.

Even police officers have been getting into the game.

“A Durham police officer for six months co-owned a medical marijuana company that is not licensed and offers consumers pot brownies and other products the government says are illegal to sell.”

These establishment-type operations never seem to get raided, though – regardless of public harm.

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see what I mean?

"The Ontario-based Cambridge Times has reported that former Conservative MP Gary Goodyear is vice president of research at Aleafia Total Health Network.

As a parliamentarian, Goodyear spoke out in favour of Harper's tough-on-marijuana legislation."

Seems the liberals aren't the only ones cashing in on soon to be legal weed. At least the liberals aren't two faced about it.


Your list is nothing more than cherry picking names to support your claim. The fact is many people from all sides of the political spectrum are getting in on this. As are many people who aren't politicians - for instance the Tragically Hip own a 6% stake in a company, and that 6% stake is worth $39million currently.
 
ya ya so im the monster
I go to camp to hunt and enjoy the outdoors, not run a daycare for junkies

Its your wording lol. Plenty of members smoke Pot on this site and don't consider themselves junkies, no more then the guys that enjoy a drink consider themselves alcoholics.

Other then that, I agree with you. I don't want anything to taint the hunt. I prefer to be sober the whole time and take the whole experience in.
 
I have a friend, nice guy, hard worker etc...but he is a different person when smoking pot..to the point where I dont want anything to do with him when he is high. Obviously pot affects everyone differently, but I can say from personal experience that pot is NOT for everyone.
 
I took over a 'wild' *ssed rig crew in a 'Texas camp' in Grande Cache some years back.
Pot was not the problem...it was smoked, a movie was watched...bedtime.
The alcohol was a problem. Fights, no sleep, no respect for property.
These are problem people that I'm tasked with keeping under control. But it seems as though we are judging by worse case scenerio.
Worrying about recreational users of marijuana is much ado about little. Sort of like a 2-3 beer a night fella... you are worrying about a very small deal.
News to the non smokers though...calling a recreational pot smoker a stoner or blazer is kind of a dyck move.
"Most of us hate something we don't understand..."
You are just coming across as a bit of an 'Unpleasant individual' .
It is something that will need to be addressed. Superbrad.. .you are doing OK. Some folks on both sides ought to read your posts again...
Because you don't understand it doesn't make it wrong or you right.
I wonder if of sports will find this topic as divisive as shooting...
 
Pot, like alcohol, can become a crutch for some people, not for others.

Pot makes most users be more "inward" and creative thinking.

Being a musician myself, I've read at least a hundred autobiographies and biographies of famous musicians,
and I can tell you that most of the music we listen to was created and recorded on one drug or another.

Even Gordon Lightfoot said that when he quit drinking, he couldn't write songs anymore.

Many of the early country guys like Johnny Cash and Roger Miller were pill poppers,
lots of the early jazz guys were herion addicts,

the Beatles music changed for the better when Dylan introduced them to pot,
The Chili Peppers were hard drug users....

Neil Young and Willie were pot heads.
The Eagles and the members of Fleetwood Mac were coke heads,
most of the late 1960's rockers like Santana, Hendrix etc were using LSD etc. etc.

One of my all time favourites, Stevie Ray Vaughan was a coke head and alcoholic.

Clapton and Keith Richards were herion addicts

Choose your favourite musician and read his or her biography, you'll see for yourself.

Most of the great classic rock, hard rock, blues, jazz, country etc. was created while using one drug or another for inspiration.

Some drugs including Marijuana do have a benefit when used by some people moderately.

I've never seen people become mean violent idiots while using pot though.

The most stupid drug of all has got to be tobacco, all it will do is kill you prematurely.
 
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I have a friend, nice guy, hard worker etc...but he is a different person when smoking pot..to the point where I dont want anything to do with him when he is high. Obviously pot affects everyone differently, but I can say from personal experience that pot is NOT for everyone.

I agree that it definitely affects people differently, I know or have known people that reg smoke weed that get productive after smoking and others that aren't productive at all. Same with alcohol, some people are social and friendly while others get angry and confrontational at the drop of a hat.

Personal experience tells me I'm more productive when I don't drink or smoke weed and prefer drinking over smoking weed anyway. I might drink a gin or two after the day is done every night for a month if I don't have a lot of pressing things going on in my work life, when I'm busy with things I might not have a drink for months unless it's a glass of wine at dinner. I can count on both hands the amount of times I'll take a puff in a year, it just doesn't work for me. I've never smoked cigarettes and don't care to smoke anything, weed included. I have no problem with people who choose to smoke or drink, especially if it doesn't negatively impact me.
 
Pot, like alcohol, can become a crutch for some people, not for others.

Pot makes most users be more "inward" and creative thinking.

Being a musician myself, I've read at least a hundred autobiographies and biographies of famous musicians,
and I can tell you that most of the music we listen to was created and recorded on one drug or another.

Even Gordon Lightfoot said that when he quit drinking, he couldn't write songs anymore.

Many of the early country guys like Johnny Cash and Roger Miller were pill poppers,
the early jazz guys were often herion addicts,

the Beatles music changed when Dylan introduced them to pot, The Chili Peppers were hard drug users....

Neil Young and Willie were pot heads.
The Eagles were coke heads, all of the late 1960's rockers were using LSD etc. etc.

One of my all time favourites, Stevie Ray Vaughan was a coke head and alcoholic.

Clapton and Keith Richards were herion addicts

Choose your favourite musician and read his or her biography, you'll see for yourself.

Most of the great classic rock, blues, jazz, country etc. was created while using one drug or another for inspiration.

Some drugs including Marijuana do have a benefit when used by some people moderately.

I've never seen people become mean violent idiots while using pot though.

The most stupid drug of all though has got to be tobacco, all it will do is kill you prematurely.

So, does this relate to the high suicide rate among these musicians as well ?

Grizz
 
Which ones are you talking about?

I can't think of any great musicians who killed themselves,
Lots of them died in plane crashes, some accidentally overdosed etc etc.

Many of them are still alive, or died of old age (granted,maybe not as old as they could have been)

Brad Delp, Boston's awesome singer is the only one who comes to mind, he had depression issues, nothing to do with drugs.

I've never heard of high suicide rates among musicians, where did you get that from?
 
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