is an antique worth the price for unrestricted carry?

Fenceline, anyone carrying a handgun against aggressive game and choosing to use it when a shotgun is available????????????????????? Your choice. I know what my choice would be and the handgun would definitely stay in the holster.
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What I'm saying is... if you have room to swing that long gun and get it up on target to mount a defence... awesome. Prefered choice is always a long gun.

But if its on your back while you are... or the animal is on you before you have room to get that long gun up... the long gun isn't going to do you a lick of good.

But you might be able to get to that pistol on you hip and still use it.

A good defence has layers.

Nothing is absolute. Having a back up plan to your go to plan is preferred.
 
fenceline said:
Depends on the scenario. If a predator is on you, are you going to be able to swing that shotgun up... or just the handgun on your hip holster? Handguns are designed to be defensive firearms, in close. Long guns require a stand off distance to wield them more often than not.
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Maybe, but you're pretty limited power-wise with these antique handguns.

I certainly wouldn't want to have to rely on something like a .455 Webley round for use on a large animal, and even the more powerful cartridges of the day like the .45 Colt and .44-40 seem like they'd be marginal.
 
fenceline said:
If it is restricted or prohibited... it isn't an antique under the act. It is one of the three... but not 2 or more.
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Not so. It is still a hand-gun, antique status or not. You would still need to have a carry permit, but you would not need to have it registered. I believe it would be legal to carry it empty, but you better only fire it a legal pistol range.

Don't believe me? Ask your local cops; call the CFO.

Do it, get caught, lose it, lose the rest of your guns, and in today's gun climate, likely go to jail.
 
I would do it... but with the papers with me as others mentioned.

Where the fk this the authorization to carry bit come in?? It's an antique. If you're carrying it on private property, and allowed to discharge a firearm (city bylaw), and respecting federal law for discharging distances, etc; why the ATC???
 
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Meroh said:
Not so. It is still a hand-gun, antique status or not. You would still need to have a carry permit, but you would not need to have it registered. I believe it would be legal to carry it empty, but you better only fire it a legal pistol range.

Don't believe me? Ask your local cops; call the CFO.

Do it, get caught, lose it, lose the rest of your guns, and in today's gun climate, likely go to jail.
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Hey, did you call the CFO and ask or is this your opinion? I'm asking because you state "don't beleive me? Ask..." but it's unclear if you actually called and asked or not.
 
If you can get charged with a CCW for a knife I'm sure they can throw that charge at you for carrying a handgun. Antique or not it's still a handgun..

(I would carry if I could but not interested in overpaying for an old gun and getting in jail for carrying it)
 
canmic said:
"hand gun" is not a legal term.

There are 4 basic types of firearms:

1) Prohibited

2) Restricted

3) Non-Restricted

4) Antique

An Antique rifle and an antique pistol are in the exact same category and have the same legal status.
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you should check your facts and sources before posting.

fenceline said:
If it is restricted or prohibited... it isn't an antique under the act. It is one of the three... but not 2 or more.
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Also incorrect.

A firearm can be both restricted or prohibited AND a antique. Take a look at section 84(3). Antiques are only exempt from SOME of the criminal code requirements re license ATT, possession at place, etc. But it is still a firearm, and if a handgun still restricted.
 
I own an antique in 455, and I love it. I still wouldn't use it in the bush. My default answer to anything involving a predatory animal is: overkill is very underrated.
 
fenceline said:
Classification first... type second. Classification matters, type does not.
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Except that classification is based on type. All handguns are restricted by default, barrel length and action type may make it prohib.

Nothin in the s 84.3 exemption exempts antiques from s2 or s84 definitions. Being antique doesnt exempt it from class, and antique is not a class. If it was there would be an antique license.

Antiques regardless of class, are exempt from a few requirements, and thats it.

Still unlawful to possess concealed or for a dangerous purpose...
 
There is so much misinformation on this thread, it's silly. Go down to the Antique forum and actually get some facts! Most of the stuff being spewed here from armchair lawyers is terrible!

R.
 
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Also, to date, I have yet to even read about an actual encounter, "in the bush" between RCMP/Conservation Officer and someone open carrying an antique. Ever.

R.
 
Rman said:
There is so much misinformation on this thread, it's silly. Go down to the Antique forum and actually get some facts! Most of the stuff being spewed here from armchair layers is terrible!

R.
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So what is it you consider incorrect? Let's hear your version of the facts.

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Also, to date, I have yet to even read about an actual encounter, "in the bush" between RCMP/Conservation Officer and someone open carrying an antique. Ever.

R.
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I have.... there was also a guy caught "in town" with an antique not too long ago.
 
#1 Lawful to open carry in the bush? Possibly but I wouldn’t chance $1/2 million in legal fees even if you win.
#2 Useful in the bush? Nope. Not at all. Very very low power. Carry a shotgun/rifle.
#3 Return to question #1

If we could sue for wrongful charges, I’d totally carry :D
 
In the letter from the RCMP posted by RRH.01 it clearly states that the "antique firearm" is indeed not legally considered to be a firearm at all.
It also states that it can be possessed without a license or a registration certificate.

However, it does require the owner to store the antique as though it were a firearm, per the RCMP storage regulations.

I'm no lawyer, but I can read, so to me this means carry it wherever you want. Same status as an air pistol with muzzle velocity under 500 fps, not a firearm.
If you use it like weapon, you will get charged as such. Just like an air pistol.

Fire retardant jump suit deployed.
 
Deuce-deuce said:
So what is it you consider incorrect? Let's hear your version of the facts.


I have.... there was also a guy caught "in town" with an antique not too long ago.
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Considering that it's law, and written as such, it isn't for me, or anyone else to have a version. It can be interpreted, sure, but the sections written about where and when an antique can be carried and discharged are very clear.

If you have read about an encounter "in the bush" with either RCMP or a CO regarding an antique, it would also be great to share it, as many have yet to have found such a write up.

R.
 
Rman said:
Considering that it's law, and written as such, it isn't for me, or anyone else to have a version. It can be interpreted, sure, but the sections written about where and when an antique can be carried and discharged are very clear.

If you have read about an encounter "in the bush" with either RCMP or a CO regarding an antique, it would also great read about it, as many have yet to do so.

R.
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Again, what is it you consider incorrect?
 
Rman said:
Again, it's the law, it isn't what is considered to be correct, it is what is correct. Go to the Antique forum and get correct information.

R.
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Rman said:
There is so much misinformation on this thread, it's silly. Go down to the Antique forum and actually get some facts! Most of the stuff being spewed here from armchair lawyers is terrible!

R.
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Care to quantify what it is you consider to be misinformation?
 
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