Full Auto Experience.......

BlackWatch said:
My old man had a full auto Thompson and Sten when I was growing up. We used to fire full auto half a mile behind our house. I was probably the only kid in my elementary that ever fired a full auto. Years later my C7 still wasn't as good as the Tommy gun. Canadians are missing out big time. It's like never being able to take the condom off:(
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Got to fire a Mk II Suppressed Sten just like Suputin's once, courtesy of the US Green Berets on a training assignment at CFB Petawawa. Plenty accurate too. The same day I also got to shoot the Dutch made Uzi, it was okay. Truly a room-broom. Personally I prefered the Sten.
A friend and co-worker used to be an RCMP armorer. They had access to a Thompson submachinegun whenever they wanted to shoot it.
Usually they went over to the museum to sign out the 100 round drum, for added fun.
With good ammunition, it was said it never jammed, not even once!
You were one lucky kid to have such a cool dad Blackwatch! :cool: :cool:
 
Why not apply to join the Army,regular or reserve if you are between the ages of 17-35,physically fit
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35 years old used to be the upper age limit to join but not anymore. You can join and serve as long as you are under 60, but you got to meet all the physical fitness and medical requirements.
 
My Dad loved the Sten when he was in the CF.

I haven't had a chance to try full auto fire yet... however work is taking me to the great state of Texas here quick so I plan on checking out the local range with F/A options.

Ideally they'll have a FAL so I can drool on the White Buffalo I'll never get to own on this side of the 49th.
 
Its funny, I got to The Gun Store in Vegas in 2000 when I was on an MRP to fix a Hercules.
Since I had shot a lot of full auto in Gagetown earlier in my career, I rented a S&W Model 36 in 38 Spl. Never having fired a snubnose revolver before I figured it was my only chance to do so. Stupid gun laws! Different people, different bucket lists.
 
I own a number of FAs and used to let guys at the try them, if they wanted. The good old days.

The Sten was always a pleasant surprise because it looked so cheap and shot so well. The FN C2 was always a big disappointment because only the first shot hit anything.

The Thompson ran like a sewing machine.
 
I liked the "Chicago Typewriter" best. The Uzi was so controllable you could just about write your name with it on the targets.I could definitely work with the SAW I did the shoot the wall pkg so all 14 guns at the time for about $400.Three rd bursts are the way to go.I let the AK47 go with about 6 left in the mag [headshot] 4 between the eyes and two climbed over the head.If it was real he wouldn't have had any use for a hat.
 
The the best full automachine gun I have ever fired was the 50 cal on a range. Shooting down targets at 1800m full auto just gets the blood pumping. Best tine I had in the army. The 25mm cannon was also amazing
 
There used to be a machine gun shoot in Maine years a go ( Harem Maxim machine gun shoot) in Dover-Foxcrofft. One year a gent had a gattling gun all brass on a wooden Carriage beautiful piece all shined up ! 45/70 caliber hand loads. It was something special to see . The night shoot was spectacular tracers and Explosions Galore ! Rented some full auto fun still grinning when I think of it . And yes it was discouraging seeing all that great kit that I wasn't able to bring back north . When I went I would camp out , the first year the closest place was way out in the boonies had coons, chipmunks racket most of the night then to top it off had a cow moose come and sniff at my tent in the wee hours of the morning ! But still had a great time !
 
All of mine was in the army, 1 PPCLI and 2 Cdo Cdn Abn Regt. Used and carried the FN C2, SMG and was a machine gunner with a 1943 Singer Sewing Machine Co. Browning Medium MG. I had to carry a 9mm SMG as a personal weapon with the MMG on a strap over my shoulder and a belt loaded and draped over my other shoulder, an awkward and heavy load. I shot on our unit rifle team using the C1 and the C2 from 500 yds down to 100 yds with the battle sights, the C2 was a 2 man shoot with timed rundowns from 500 - 200 yards and I used to tap the trigger for single shots for better accuracy. I still have my old range logbook from that summer and fall. The C2 was a nice weapon with the bipod and 2 or 3 round bursts maximum for good accuracy, the 30 round mags hung too low down for the bipod so I preferred the 20 round mags and was pretty fast with mag changes. For my MG course we shot the .50 cal HMG which had a mount for a light or optics plus a single shot selector but I only used it in training, we shot balloons with an AA mount in Wainwright just using tracers for aiming.
 
6167 said:
Freakin Awesome to shoot this LMG.

It is a WW1 Lewis Gun owned by a buddy of mine, and I shot about 480 rounds 1 afternoon at a DND range.

I swear it was as accurate as some of my Enfields...hit right where you pointed it.

We know the school of thought of an LMG is a beaten path or arc, but I can see why gunners liked these...if you wanted to lay in fire on a protected position or a vehicle you can literally sustain a stream of fire exactly where you want it to go.

Functioned flawless once the spring timing was adjusted with the fish scale, and off you go...couldn't load the 48 round pans fast enough!
Hint....480 rounds!

Set up half a dozen balloons on stakes about 300 meters out for the shooting positions. Guy beside me blows of a 50 round belt with his MG42 and hits one balloon!

I squeezed a burst from the Lewis and they all go pop,pop,pop....all gone!

I was completely blown away by this piece.

I have shot Brens before and they are awesome but just the WW1 Canadian nostalgia of the Lewis was enough, let alone the accuracy....completely unexpected.

Cheers Paul
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Back in the "good old days, " the second machine gun I bought was a cased Lewis Gun, with five magazines, a spare barrel, lots of spare internal parts, and it even had anti-aircraft sights. Heavy, but awesome to shoot. Cost me $65 at the time, and I had a source of free .303 and 9mm ammo. At the time, Ireland was changing over to the Bren, and the Lewis was readily available.

I also owned a MARK ONE Sten gun, along with the Long Branch Mark II, and the Mark IIIs. The Mark II was reliable, and lots of fun to shoot. We used to compare it on the range with my MP 40 and others, and I would have taken the Sten any day.

One of the more interesting ones was a Japanese Nambu tripod mounted machine gun that fed with strips. It took more time to get enough ammo to make it worth while lugging the heavy thing to the range, but it was worth it.

I loved the Bren, and had several, and a Vickers belt fed to go along with them.

And this was only a partial list. Gone are the days that had been one of the best times in Canada.
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I had the opportunity of shooting a MP5, a Grease Gun and a Tommy Gun. The 3-burst option on the MP5 is AWESOME. Super-controllable.
 
It's funny how an allure builds around something that you don't allow people to have.

I've only shot the usual suspects, C6, C7, C8, and C9 in full auto. I also got my hands on a .40 cal UMP, which was good fun.

My take away with full auto is that it makes great sense in machine guns, has very limited applications in shoulder fired rifles, works great in SMG's at close range, and would be thoroughly enjoyable on the civilian side if the government were to grace us with such a pleasure :)
 
Full auto is lots of fun, especially at night
Fired 50 cal MGs, C6, C7, C8 C9 in the army
Civvy-side, AKs, MP44, Sterling SMG with integral suppressor, Thompson, Glock 18, Skorpion
So long as you keep your bursts short, accuracy is not a problem
When you shoot Hollywood/video-game style like most Canadians think.... your accuracy starts to suffer
Pity that we don't have more facilities and opportunities here in Canada so Canadians can actually try firing a full auto firearm for themselves
Oh wait, our lawmakers don't want Canadians coming away from the experience with first hand knowledge of how full auto firearms really function
Knowledge is power
 
Shot full auto in Florida, grease gun (slow ROF), AK, MP5, Tommy gun and my fav M249!! it was a blast (no oun intended) the RSO I had looked and sounded like Chris Kyle and was ex SOF it was definelty an experience I will never forget.
 
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