Going to a semi...

I can honestly say that is one aspect of the game today I ####ing hate, voice activated releases. I guess I am old school. I like having a trapper pulling targets, calling lost birds and ends after the first shooter fires his 5th shot. And I hate dragging voice releases back and forth at each station during a round of handicap if the shooters I am squadded with are at varying yardages. It’s a pain in the ass!

I was hoping you would chime in
What would you suggest for a gun for a new shooter one that will not break the bank
LOL we still shoot 1100's since we still have a cord and have to push a button LOL. I kid you not
Cheers
 
I have been shooting clay targets since the mid 1980’s and have observed, there are two guns that always seems to break at an alarming rate, Remington 1100’s and Perrazzi’s I won’t use either. If your set on a semi Bennelli’s , Some Brownings and Berretta’s seem to be the only truly reliable trouble free guns ( unless you can get a good SX1) I have seen a lot of guys buy Winchester SX3 guns and experience problems getting them to run reliably, to the point after a while they get rid of them and get something else.
If I was gonna get a semi for sporting clays, it would be a Benelli, or Berretta in my opinion based on real observations Remington semis are junk in comparison.
 
I would recommend a new shooter shoots what they can afford to buy and not be discouraged by the if it doesn’t start with the letter “K” it’s not worth taking up the game crowd. Buy the gun you like and can afford and go have fun. I started out with an 1100, used a model 12 as an interim gun until I could afford the B gun I wanted. Then after a few years I quit shooting trap for about a decade and shot skeet. By the time I went back to the trap field I was in need of a trap gun once again and after going through the gotta have the cutting edge technology guess what I bought after a few buy and sells and have stuck with now? A 40 year old “P” gun!! Re breaks the clays without having broke the bank and I am back to the ways I love most.....OLD SCHOOL!!
I also don’t shoot registered much any more...last time was a whole 200 targets in 2016. I just go play for fun now.
 
I have been shooting clay targets since the mid 1980’s and have observed, there are two guns that always seems to break at an alarming rate, Remington 1100’s and Perrazzi’s I won’t use either. If your set on a semi Bennelli’s , Some Brownings and Berretta’s seem to be the only truly reliable trouble free guns ( unless you can get a good SX1) I have seen a lot of guys buy Winchester SX3 guns and experience problems getting them to run reliably, to the point after a while they get rid of them and get something else.
If I was gonna get a semi for sporting clays, it would be a Benelli, or Berretta in my opinion based on real observations Remington semis are junk in comparison.

You brought up a good point on the 1100. Yes they break all the time but the guys that normally shoot them also them knew them inside out and always carried spare parts so there was nothing we could not fix in 10 minutes
I could see that being a problem today even if one had the ability to do so.
Cheers
 
I would recommend a new shooter shoots what they can afford to buy and not be discouraged by the if it doesn’t start with the letter “K” it’s not worth taking up the game crowd. Buy the gun you like and can afford an go have fun. I started out with an 1100, used a model 12 as an interim gun until I could afford the B gun I wanted. Then after a few years I quit shooting trap for about a decade and shot skeet. By the time I went back to the trap field I was in need of a trap gun once again and after going through the gotta have the cutting edge technology guess what I bought after a few buy and sells and have stuck with now? A 40 year old “P” gun!! It breaks the clays without having broke the bank and I am back to the ways I love most.....OLD SCHOOL!!

We are on the same page. What ever stick you can afford that goes bang just to get on that stand on a regular basis and burn up some flats
Cheers
 
Trap, skeet and sporting clays all have there variables, one of them being gun malfunctions. You have enough to do when you step on station than wonder if your gun is going to go bang.
When I first starting shooting clays targets I used a Win M-12, In 1974 when Win. brought out the Super X M-1 semi auto I bought one for trap. Then the skeet version for skeet. The skeet version had gas port sizing issues, and at times wouldn't eject a casing.

I was at a shoot in the states and on my squad was an older gentleman who among other things was world champion in 28 ga. The SX-1 had jammed twice on that round, and I wasn't amused. At diner that night he was sitting beside me and passed along the wisdom that I mentioned above about having enough to do on station than worry if the gun is going to work. He advised me if I was going stay at the clay target game to go out a buy a good quality over and under, learn how to shoot it and don't look back. He related how he had come up through the ranks shooting pumps and semi's and settled on a Browning 4 barrel set.
I took his advice and traded the SX-1 skeet version in on a Win. 101 as it fit me better than the Browning Citori. I later bought a 101 in .410 as well. Over the years I poured thousands upon thousands of rounds through those 101's without a malfunction. I have also owned a Ruger Red Label which was one of my pheasant guns, excellent guns. When I retired from clay targets I was shooting a Classic Doubles 12 ga, skeet version. Basically a Win 101 with all the bells and whistles packed in a fancy luggage case, which I still have.

So I pass the advice I received as a young fella on to you. If your going to stay in the clay target games, buy the very best over and under you can afford that fits you well, you will never regret it. Plus you will never pick up another hull of the ground again.

Now that is a strange one for me. Like you when they came out dad bought three trap and three skeet
We had no issues like that. I am wondering if your barrel was drilled for field by mistake it was like 3 thousands in the difference but would do as you say
I still own two of these original skeets he bought and still shoot them
He also sent our X1's to the late Bob Baumgart in wisconsin through dad's gun shop for I know for trigger mods, tube plating and barrel pinning etc maybe he did something to the ports there since we never experienced it
Cheers
 
We are on the same page. What ever stick you can afford that goes bang just to get on that stand on a regular basis and burn up some flats
Cheers

I no longer have “the drive” to compete. Been there, done that. I also no longer have the desire. I will still attend the odd registered event that peaks my interest. I’ll just purchase my membership at that point and if that means penalty yardage or class so be it. I never was one to shoot for class. I tried my best and where I was placed was where I earned. I still enjoy breaking clays though.
 
I no longer have “the drive” to compete. Been there, done that. I also no longer have the desire. I will still attend the odd registered event that peaks my interest. I’ll just purchase my membership at that point and if that means penalty yardage or class so be it. I never was one to shoot for class. I tried my best and where I was placed was where I earned. I still enjoy breaking clays though.

Nothing wrong with any of that. I have no more eyes to change hands to LOL or the drive. Bad right so switched left about 20 years ago now bad left :( so it is what it is
take care
 
I have been shooting clay targets since the mid 1980’s and have observed, there are two guns that always seems to break at an alarming rate, Remington 1100’s and Perrazzi’s I won’t use either. If your set on a semi Bennelli’s , Some Brownings and Berretta’s seem to be the only truly reliable trouble free guns ( unless you can get a good SX1) I have seen a lot of guys buy Winchester SX3 guns and experience problems getting them to run reliably, to the point after a while they get rid of them and get something else.
If I was gonna get a semi for sporting clays, it would be a Benelli, or Berretta in my opinion based on real observations Remington semis are junk in comparison.

The 3" SX-3s seem to be reliable with all loads. My own 3" gun was my loaner, and it fired thousands of rounds with no issues. My 3-1/2" gun is reliable with most loads, but it will malfunction a few times out of 100 shots with some cheap target loads, the Super Target in particular. If I was buying another SX-3, it would have a 3" chamber, I only bought the 3-1/2" gun , because the deal was too good to pass up.
 
Still a lot of 1100s in Skeet. Particularly popular in Upstate NY. The perennial best shooter in the state uses one for 12ga events (with a Cutts). It's a site to watch.

I started with an 11-87, and that was enough to put me off of the 1100 family. If you want to shoot one, you better carry spare parts and know how to fix one.

I'd recommend a Beretta for an auto-loader. I own a few Beretta 391's for when I feel the desire to shoot one. Still not my preference for competitions vs my O/U though.

Brad.
 
I sure dislike that word afford I can afford a lot of things just not all of them.

The years When all I could afford is a 500$ shot gun and three flats of shells I just didn’t shoot. Building houses and having kids was more important.

You can be the best Nova Scotia skeeter and the trophy’s mean nothing to me at the estate sale.

In the end all that has value is the gun and even very expensive firearms are only worth what someone will pay for them. When I pass my estate is worth more than an 1100.
 
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I sure dislike that word afford I can afford a lot of things just not all of them.

The years When all I could afford is a 500$ shot gun and three flats of shells I just didn’t shoot. Building houses and having kids was more important.

You can be the best Nova Scotia skeeter and the trophy’s mean nothing to me at the estate sale.

In the end all that has value is the gun and even very expensive firearms are only worth what someone will pay for them. When I pass my estate is worth more than an 1100.

Not sure what point you are trying to make here.
Well we still shot poor and payed for a house, a car and raised kids it was all about balance. In fact my girls shot 28ga 1100 when young themselves and even reloaded their own .Then they found boys around 15/16 and the shooting 1100's stopped :(
You seem to think because we own 1100's our net worth is low LOL.
Quit while you are ahead at that one . Have you even been able to retire yet??? or still building your net worth.
Cheers
 
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Still a lot of 1100s in Skeet. Particularly popular in Upstate NY. The perennial best shooter in the state uses one for 12ga events (with a Cutts). It's a site to watch.

I started with an 11-87, and that was enough to put me off of the 1100 family. If you want to shoot one, you better carry spare parts and know how to fix one.

I'd recommend a Beretta for an auto-loader. I own a few Beretta 391's for when I feel the desire to shoot one. Still not my preference for competitions vs my O/U though.

Brad.

Agree 100%. In fact when we shot them seriously also a spare gun many times when you traveled any distance from home. It just is what it is when using 1100's . I still have my 2 full sets somewhere in the safes and bet there is still a 12ga o-ring in my wallet :)
Cheers
 
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Not sure what point you are trying to make here.
Well we still shot poor and payed for a house and raised kids it was all about balance
You think because we own 1100's our net worth is low LOL.
Quit while you are ahead at that one . Have you even been able to retire yet??? or still building your net worth.
Cheers

As a matter of fact I am not to concerned about my next box of corn flakes. My net worth builds everyday so I haven’t stopped yet why would I?

It seems the lower the income the more you have to justify it?


What’s it like to walk through a parking lot for you do you question every vehicle that’s worth more then yours? Same horsepower right lol?
 
As a matter of fact I am not to concerned about my next box of corn flakes. My net worth builds everyday so I haven’t stopped yet why would I?

It seems the lower the income the more you have to justify it?


What’s it like to walk through a parking lot for you do you question every vehicle that’s worth more then yours? Same horsepower right lol?

I still don't follow you or your logic but that is Ok
On the above because life is short and money isn't everything as you will learn someday so enjoy it while you can not leave it for someone else to blow and enjoy
I really don't care about newer vehicles and their value they are just transportation IMO something we have to own two of one for me and one for the mrs and normally six months a year when I walk through a parking lot mine has the most horsepower since I still have my muscle car collection that I drive from the 60's and 70's :)
Hope your plan works out for you. This 1100 owner retired before age 50 with no regrets and still eats much better than corn flakes :)
 
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I still don't follow you but that is Ok
On the above because life is short and money isn't everything as you will learn someday so enjoy it while you can not leave it for someone else to blow and enjoy
Normally when I walk through a parking lot mine has the most horsepower since I still have my muscle car collection to drive from the 60's and 70's :)
Hope your plan works out for you. This 1100 owner retired before age 50 with no regrets and still eats much better than corn flakes :)

Maybe you should have worked till 55 and bought somthing decent?

Being at work everyday is the best way to grow wealth?

The muscle car of my generation is a diesel HD pick up.

Oh well back to bass fishing I guess, yesterday was slow only one five pounder maybe one day we can catch em like them old boys.

I will dock my old ranger by a brand new boat and tell him he can’t catch em like me see how far that gets me.

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There is always a bigger fish wisdom for a young person.
 
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Ok, I'll chime in as a new trap shooter.
Have shot many gun events for 30 years and never trip any shotgun events.
I tried trap last year and never looked back.
I started with a Remington 870 and had fun, but wasn't getting near 20's.
I saw a lot of semis on the range and then thought I would give it a try.
I picked up an 1100 trap with extra skeet barrel (from the 70's I think).
I never had any mechanical issues, but I only shoot about 4-5 rounds a week.
We usually let newbies use my 1100 as the recoil is quite manageable.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Have a great Easter.
 
Maybe you should have worked till 55 and bought somthing decent?

Being at work everyday is the best way to grow wealth?

The muscle car of my generation is a diesel HD pick up.

Oh well back to bass fishing I guess, yesterday was slow only one five pounder maybe one day we can catch em like them old boys.

I will dock my old ranger by a brand new boat and tell him he can’t catch em like me see how far that gets me.



There is always a bigger fish wisdom for a young person.[/QUOTE]

I am quite happy with my decisions. You cannot be that bad I guess making sure I assume your young guy has fun. That is cool. Thanks for sharing the pic
When one of my brothers lived in Ontario we would go on his boat I want to say the french river ?? area and get nice pickerel he would call them walleye to me
Sure tasted good that I remember
Cheers
 
I shot my first round of skeet with a borrowed 1100, but my first skeet gun was a Citori Skeet model. I still shoot my SX-3 on rainy days, when I don't want to get my K-20 wet, and my scores really don't suffer much shooting the SX-3. I choose to shoot a K-20 and an F-3 at clays, because I enjoy shooting them, not because I want to leave behind nice shotguns when I pass on. I did retire at 55, after working in the oilsands for 35 years, and I certainly don't regret retiring, rather than working to increase my net worth for another five years. I am certainly not rich, but I can afford to do a lot of things that I enjoy doing, as long as I prioritize my expenditures.
 
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