Modern Sporter Update April 5th 2018

ezbeatz said:
Or one could look at it as a Canadian company putting their time and money into developing multiple NR rifles for Canadian gun owners, which is long overdue.
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Yes and if you read you'd see I have my name on the list. My response was to the other guy saying everyone should just give their RPAL info to ATRS in case they get reclassified.
 
Ooohhh feisty! Too cold for soccer? Anyways, reading your post again, still doesn’t establish your perceived context. Just sounds like another “too expensive” whine. Perhaps if you practice your grammar, you can be a mental giant like me (and tech nine) someday too!
 
Uisge said:
Ooohhh feisty! Too cold for soccer? Anyways, reading your post again, still doesn’t establish your perceived context. Just sounds like another “too expensive” whine. Perhaps if you practice your grammar, you can be a mental giant like me (and tech nine) someday too!
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Allrite thats duelly notted my freind
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
I spent an hour on the phone today with Ed Burlew on this very topic.
His opinion is that to the individual, the ramifications should not be much more than having to have the rifle registered, so not a big deal.
The exposure we have is potential retributive persecution. The feds seem to think nothing of laying a bunch of charges, suspending a FBL while the courts sort things out. Defending ourselves against litigation would be expensive, having our FBL revoked or suspended would kill the company. Although the FRT is not law and despite the fact that this is a direct descendant of the MV, so by rights should be NR, do we take the all or nothing gamble that could end ATRS permanently?
Welcome to the Police State of canada
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Wolverine is rolling the dice with their 180. If every retailer/canadian manufacturer did the same it would be hard for the rcmp to maintain their stranglehold on classification before sale
 
DILLIGAF said:
They are not getting an FRT at all. They dont need one. FRT isnt law.
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Ok I understand that. What I wonder about is what we say to police that may question our rifle if the see us in the bush or something. How will they know our rifle is non-restricted without an FRT? Will they be ok with our explanations? Genuine question I am having trouble finding an answer too.
 
Yah sorry just reading the last few post here. You can sell guns without first getting a FRT? How does that work? Why wouldn’t everyone do that? Just curious
 
Fordmam said:
Yah sorry just reading the last few post here. You can sell guns without first getting a FRT? How does that work? Why wouldn’t everyone do that? Just curious
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From my understanding you need a FRT to import a firearm into Canada, you don't need one if it is manufactured in country but the selling company would be liable to ensure it meets NR classification. If something went wrong and the RCMP somehow put it in another class the manufacturing company would be on the hook. So the FRT isn't law as said above but it is the recognized "stamp of approval" from the RCMP themselves.

Think of it like this, you need a permit when doing electrical work on your house. Without a permit you can do the work and may never have an issue but if an electrical fire were to occur and it was found that work was done without a permit you would be on the hook and no insurance would cover your ass. If you went through the proper process of getting a permit and having the city sign off on the work that was done, if that electrical fire then started, you would now be covered.
 
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HirvGotti said:
From my understanding you need a FRT to import a firearm into Canada, you don't need one if it is manufactured in country but the selling company would be liable to ensure it meets NR classification. If something went wrong and the RCMP somehow put it in another class the manufacturing company would be on the hook. So the FRT isn't law as said above but it is the recognized "stamp of approval" from the RCMP themselves.

Think of it like this, you need a permit when doing electrical work on your house. Without a permit you can do work and may never have an issue but if an electrical fire were to occur and it was found that work was done without a permit you would be on the hook and no insurance would cover your ass. If you went through the proper process of getting a permit and having the city sign off on the work that was done, then you are covered and if that electrical fire started you would be covered.
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That makes sense but what do you tell the police if they think you have a restricted rifle? How do you prove to them it's non-restricted? Or will they just take your gun?
 
Thanks for the information. If ATRS wants to wait for their gun to clear it sounds like the right thing. Thanks for the update.
 
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