I bet the OP's issue is with the bait-and-switch. If this limitation was part of the deal when he paid his money, it's a different matter. But when you pay x amount of dollars for something, and they you get "less" than that something, you have a legitimate beef.
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It is the lack of notification that his type of membership was no longer valid that is causing the issue.
The point is the membership changed midyear without any notice (from what the OP is saying). So yes he is right to complain.
If i paid money for the year and the range decides to change the rules midyear and now my membership is useless to me (maybe i can only make it out on weekends) then id be pissed off as well.
But if they decided to change the rules and let all the associate members know "hey people are complaining about such and such so starting next year we have decided...." im sure would have went over better.
Oi. Another TSE bashing thread.
They have made it so that only full members and unlicensed guests with an RO can use the rifle range on the weekends. This is because full members pay $600 for a membership and have come on a weekend where it's all full with morons with their SKS dumping rounds downrange with their bros. I would be pissed off too. I think it's a good idea, keep the loyal full members happy first.
You spend $80 a year for a membership mostly to own Restricted guns, which is a nice option they provide instead of the full $600. What? You want a private reserved bay and bathroom stall too?
I would be more pissed about the change of conditions after I bought my membership especially if there was no mention that the range reserves the right to change the conditions of my membership when I signed up.
I don't think that's an "ethics" issue. The associate membership is $80/year, and the regular membership is $600/year - seems reasonable that you get less for the associate membership but maybe that should have been communicated more clearly. The associate membership appears to be for people who don't shoot a lot and primarily want membership for the purpose of satisfying the CFO's gun range membership requirements.
I know for a fact that when you're filling out the membership waiver BEFORE getting a membership, there is an area for your email address and a question of if you want to receive email updates about stuff around the range, and that they sent out an email a few weeks ago about the change to everyone on this list.
I don't belong nor will I step foot in there again but It more of a speculation on my part as too why the op could be pissed. However I would still be pissed if there was mention when I signed up that they can remove priveledges that I agreed to when I paid for the membership.
Oi. Another TSE bashing thread.
They have made it so that only full members and unlicensed guests with an RO can use the rifle range on the weekends. This is because full members pay $600 for a membership and have come on a weekend where it's all full with morons with their SKS dumping rounds downrange with their bros. I would be pissed off too. I think it's a good idea, keep the loyal full members happy first.
You spend $80 a year for a membership mostly to own Restricted guns, which is a nice option they provide instead of the full $600. What? You want a private reserved bay and bathroom stall too?
I did not purchase an associated membership to satisfy any CFO issues to own a restricted weapon. I shoot less than 12 times a year which is where the limit is to make it then more benificial for me to have a better membership. More than that then its worth it to me to get a different membership type. I am not a moron blasting an SKS down range with their bros and by the way you communicate I can easily determineI would be considerably more respectful than yourself in almost any circumstance, please refer to the bathroom comment. The issue is certainly not that a full membership member deserves more time at all. The issue is how the change was communicated to the people it affected. There was zero regard for them and lots of people drove there to shoot because they always have, this changed with no communication. Once again, not a CFO issue, not a restricted weapons issue and not a full members deserve more than an associated issue. It’s about changing the terms of agreement with no contact, thats all so lets not turn this into something that its not. Right or wrong if he can do it is not the issue at all, its how and thats it.
This is all reasonable, thus I would consider this an ethical approach, even if they said starting on your next renewal
So why have an associate membership at all if you’re just doing drop-in’s? Do they require drop-ins to have associate memberships now? Most only have the associate membership in order to placate the CFO, but it’s a little known secret that an AHEIA membership is cheaper and checks off the same box for the paperwork boogeyman.
That being said, if your associate membership purchase was made and it specified range what your range access would be, and then that was changed afterwards then it would be a legitimate beef. I was more commenting towards the dogpile of comments that wind up on TSE threads. I’ve criticized the man where evidence justified, but I’ll also defend the guy if I feel attacks are unwarranted. In your case I’d need to see what was originally written about the benefits of the associate membership to have any opinion one way or another.
That being said, if your associate membership purchase was made and it specified range what your range access would be, and then that was changed afterwards then it would be a legitimate beef. I was more commenting towards the dogpile of comments that wind up on TSE threads. I’ve criticized the man where evidence justified, but I’ll also defend the guy if I feel attacks are unwarranted. In your case I’d need to see what was originally written about the benefits of the associate membership to have any opinion one way or another.
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That’s my point, why have it, essentially you are prepaying for a dozen visits at a cheaper rate is all, now that you are not considered a member, as in the title “associated MEMBER”. It’s no different then drop in now. Lots of people buy these because they dont shoot a lot. Again, I dont disagree with their reasoning, only the method
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I don’t think the zampolit likes this sort of thing
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