support for eddie Maurice's self defense case Please read...

[josh1976]

Many instances of home defense go unreported by media because there are good cops who know how to right a proper report in justified situations. I've been in this position and held an invader until the cops came. (He wasn't too well at all), but the onscene officers were on my side, and the official report reflected my inocence at every word. Let me assure you, this could have made the news and could have made me the criminal if it was not for "real cops showing up and "protecting and serving" me the actual victim, not the perpetrator. I was lucky.

But here's the thing. You are allowed to defend yourself. Don't say that you can't. And in a situation, none of us would give a rats arse what the law says about. What's unfortunate is that bad onscene cops (luck of the draw) can ruin your life over it and twist the reality making you the criminal . This possibility does not deter me from defending my home. Although it does really piss me off. As they say, I'd rather be judged than buried.

 

[straightandnarrow]

The govt doesn't want you to defend yourself. They want the exclusive right of defence, even when they are doing a lousy job.
Part of that is actually attacking the victim as in this case, and in so many others. (Gee did the Boushie gang get charged with- attempted theft, drunk driving, illegal possession of firearm, loaded, perjury)

The crown won't let go because it takes its cues from govt, and the govt is totally against guns and will use its influence on any case in which guns are used by honest citizens (easy target) as in this case
while amazingly going easy on criminals (C-75).

case comes up next week-18th

FRom Calgary Sun March 8 = Travis Dunne, a family friend, has set up a trust account for Eddie’s legal and other expenses in these trying times. Donations can be made at any TD branch, account number 8079-6142303. Money is coming in steady.

 

[Autolite]

But here's the thing. You are allowed to defend yourself. Don't say that you can't.

The law still prohibits us from EFFECTIVELY defending ourselves. And I'm sure we all here understand what I'm talking about. I'm reminded again of the senior Brian Warman from Alix Alberta who was butchered with machetes by two home invaders last year. Once they were already in his house, there was little he could have done to stop or prevent the attack...

 

[Liberty.357]

(Gee did the Boushie gang get charged with- attempted theft, drunk driving, illegal possession of firearm, loaded, perjury)

Yeah no kidding. They could've charged them with a whole host of other charges as well if they played as loose as they did with Stanley.. Reckless endangerment with a motor vehicle, fleeing scene, trespassing, ect. ect... No, instead they throw any charge that will stick at the victim. After all he took one less delinquent out of their established revolving door crony system that pays the salaries of their own - the police, lawyers, judges, prison guards, prob officer's, politicians, insurance brokers and every other crook stealing good citizens money in the established "honest" system. They also conveniently have the power. Don't like it? Aren't a sheep?? Try fighting it without being an elitist.

No. The lowly honest farmer, who worked hard for a living, knows the value of an honest hard dollar, actually contributed to the country, made something, paid all those crooks salaries and fed up,, decided the last ones weren't gunna get their payday... He gets to take it up the backside once again. All while the inner city crooks cry wolf that one of their thieves got hurt. After all, who doesn't steal to make an honest living? Oh... yeah..., Gerald Stanely.

 

[Autolite]

Just a reminder that tomorrow Eddie Maurice will be back in court again. Will there be another postponement? How bad does the Crown need to screw-up before the charges are dropped???

 

[Shackleton]

You're all going to hate me. I'm in Justice Studies at my college and none of our teachers, all retired police officers think that the Stanley case was self defense. The kid was shot in the back of the head and the man who shot him was not following safe practice. I believe it was an old colt 1911 which probably could have malfunctioned, but still.. You executed this unarmed kid. I wish we could have "stand your ground" laws but we do not. My teacher also said that this was against the law because the handgun should have been locked away due to it being restricted. I know.. I know.. You or me, right? Kid was unarmed. How are you supposed to know in the dark? Well.. We can go on and on but the bottom line is I think a lot of us want to justify this so that the negatives don't effect us as gun owners. Also a lot of you guys talk like you're from the US, you talk like we have so much violent crime that it's just okay to Wild-West someone like that. Honestly.. I have a pack mentality and I'm not saying I wouldn't kill for my family or even that I wouldn't kill at all (Getting my diplomas and then joining the CAF for a bit) it's just that if I came up behind my enemy as a Canadian citizen I would at least say something before shooting them in the back of the head. By the way, would you not have a light source to check for the intruders? We could go on and on. In the end all you want is your kids safe so you would rather justify the shooting I think.

Alright, now everyone tear me apart lol.

Edit: Maybe he was armed maybe he wasn't, when they were talking about it in class he had his back turned, sitting on a 4 wheeler that he wanted to steal, and was shot. Either way.

 

[kagia]

You're all going to hate me. I'm in Justice Studies at my college and none of our teachers, all retired police officers think that the Stanley case was self defense. The kid was shot in the back of the head and the man who shot him was not following safe practice. I believe it was an old colt 1911 which probably could have malfunctioned, but still.. You executed this unarmed kid. I wish we could have "stand your ground" laws but we do not. My teacher also said that this was against the law because the handgun should have been locked away due to it being restricted. I know.. I know.. You or me, right? Kid was unarmed. How are you supposed to know in the dark? Well.. We can go on and on but the bottom line is I think a lot of us want to justify this so that the negatives don't effect us as gun owners. Also a lot of you guys talk like you're from the US, you talk like we have so much violent crime that it's just okay to Wild-West someone like that. Honestly.. I have a pack mentality and I'm not saying I wouldn't kill for my family or even that I wouldn't kill at all (Getting my diplomas and then joining the CAF for a bit) it's just that if I came up behind my enemy as a Canadian citizen I would at least say something before shooting them in the back of the head. By the way, would you not have a light source to check for the intruders? We could go on and on. In the end all you want is your kids safe so you would rather justify the shooting I think.

Alright, now everyone tear me apart lol.

Edit: Maybe he was armed maybe he wasn't, when they were talking about it in class he had his back turned, sitting on a 4 wheeler that he wanted to steal, and was shot. Either way.

He was not shot with a 1911, the gang was armed with a loaded rifle, he was not on a quad when he was shot. You've been misinformed.

 

[fraserdw]

The law still prohibits us from EFFECTIVELY defending ourselves. And I'm sure we all here understand what I'm talking about. I'm reminded again of the senior Brian Warman from Alix Alberta who was butchered with machetes by two home invaders last year. Once they were already in his house, there was little he could have done to stop or prevent the attack...

The law requires you to retreat if possible and to meet force with reasonable force, if necessary. Prove that the first was not possible and the second was reasonable and you are free with a large legal bill and an un-saleable farm for sale like Stanley.

 

[Shackleton]

He was not shot with a 1911, the gang was armed with a loaded rifle, he was not on a quad when he was shot. You've been misinformed.

Really? Wow. That's silly. I looked into it a little a couple months ago but not too much. Can you link me some real info so I stop making myself look like an idiot? I mean I stand by my other points but if there were more than one and they DID have a firearm I guess it's different.

 

[Shackleton]

The law requires you to retreat if possible and to meet force with reasonable force, if necessary. Prove that the first was not possible and the second was reasonable and you are free with a large legal bill and an un-saleable farm for sale like Stanley.

Yeah I hate how if someone breaks into my home I can't use my 5000 dollar katana on them unless they also have a sword. I study martial arts, lots of them actually and I wonder how I would match force in certain situations..

 

[Shackleton]

Wow I was super lied to it was daytime.

 

[kagia]

Really? Wow. That's silly. I looked into it a little a couple months ago but not too much. Can you link me some real info so I stop making myself look like an idiot? I mean I stand by my other points but if there were more than one and they DID have a firearm I guess it's different.

The deceased was behind the wheel of an SUV and was about to potentially run over Stanley's wife. Stanley reached in the window with one hand to try to remove the keys from the ignition, when the gun in his other hand malfunctioned (hang fire,) resulting in the scumbag getting shot. I do not have a link but it should be easy enough to find.

 

[kagia]

Wow I was super lied to it was daytime.

Welcome to academia.

 

[Shackleton]

I'm actually kind of pissed about this. Thanks for not running me into the ground. I guess it's true you really can't trust anyone no matter who they are and always do research. Still, I have my weird views about things but not this case anymore. I also live in a city, not a big one but not in the middle of nowhere. I learned stuff this morning CGN.

 

[kagia]

At the end of the day, these were grown adults in their twenties. They knew better. Had they not been out victimizing hard working families, they might have all made it home alive that day. From what I remember, they were also driving around pissed drunk too though, so who knows.

I can say with pride that I donated multiple times to Stanley's fundraiser and agree 100% with the verdict.

 

[Liberty.357]

I study martial arts, lots of them actually and I wonder how I would match force in certain situations..

Don't tell anyone you study martial arts. The moment you have to defend yourself in court they'll say "our client is a relatable urbanite thief, while the defendant is the 'Kungfoo Master' that used a pinky finger move to disable my client."

I guess it's true you really can't trust anyone no matter who they are and always do research.

I don't think they lied to you. They are simply regular people. Set aside the degrees, they probably know just the same about the case as you did. They not only have their biases, they also were quite correct about self defence being a tough sell in Canada. Which is why they went with the bs "hang fire" defense.

If I was a juror I would of hard a hard time not convicting on the basis of the "hang fire" alone. I'm 99.999999999% sure, their was no hang fire. However, I'm 100% sure there was defense of self and property. Whether or not that is reconized in Canada, I could care less. In Countries with real rights and freedom's, it is. I believe I would have been the majority on the jury (I'm from Sask). The rest of the jury would have needed the hang fire bs to get past the fact that Canada has no rights.

 

[Autolite]

I'm 99.999999999% sure, their was no hang fire.

There was a spent casing from Stanley's pistol found on the dashboard of the Boushie vehicle. There was a peculiar bulge on the spent brass that experts say backs the 'hang fire' story. And it was also determined that the ammunition in question was several decades old.

https://panow.com/article/737563/anatomy-hang-fire-gun-expert-cross-examined-stanley-trial

Consider also that although hang fires are usually 'very brief', the rule while on the range is to wait one full minute before attempting to unload a suspected hang fire. That's the rule in the Canadian military anyway. I'm certainly no expert, but I would guess that there's a legitimate reason for the full one minute wait time...

 

[Autolite]

The law requires you to retreat if possible and to meet force with reasonable force, if necessary. Prove that the first was not possible and the second was reasonable and you are free with a large legal bill and an un-saleable farm for sale like Stanley.

What chance would such a law have given Brian Warman? Where do you 'retreat' to once the intruders are already in your living room???

 

[Autolite]

He was not shot with a 1911, the gang was armed with a loaded rifle, he was not on a quad when he was shot. You've been misinformed.

The Stanley pistol was an old Tokarev TT33. When Boushie was shot, he had a damaged but loaded .22 rifle in his lap which fell to the ground afterward. The RCMP posted pics of the Boushie rifle online but the Leftist MSM buried the fact fact that the guy was armed. Go figure...

(The rifle was bent because the criminals were using it as a pry-bar to open the door of a truck on the farm of one of Stanley's neighbours just before they reached the Stanley farm)

 

[Liberty.357]

There was a spent casing from Stanley's pistol found on the dashboard of the Boushie vehicle. There was a peculiar bulge on the spent brass that experts say backs the 'hang fire' story. And it was also determined that the ammunition in question was several decades old...

My 7.62x25 surplus has all sorts of bulged and odd spent brass. Most likely from hot loadings.

You can choose to believe what you want. Never in one million years would I believe that. The odds of that happening are so slim. Could it have happened, maybe. Could you win the lottery and get struck by lightning on the same day, maybe.

Seriously though, look at all the evidence, does some stupid hang fire theory really need to come into play??