STAG ARMS STAG-10 CDN 308 Non-Restricted Barrel Canada

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jiffx2781 said:
That's what I noticed as well which explains the accuracy difference between calibers. The 308 is geared towards guys who want hunting rifle accuracy or want to blast away with cheap ammo. There is no need for a high end barrel for either purpose.



And without it actually being confirmed, (that I've been able to find anyways) I would hazard a guess and say that the stainless 6.5 CM barrel is made by Ballistic Advantage. Both the 22" and 24" seem to be the exact same contour and specs as the BA barrel. Not to mention that given Stags affiliation with BA and Aero it would make perfect sense to use the BA barrel.

If I'm correct in my assumption that the 6.5's are using a BA barrel I think people buying one of these guns are going to be rather impressed. BA makes an extremely accurate barrel for the money.

Some confirmation from Stag or AE on who makes these barrels would be appreciated.
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Given Canada Day, and the upcoming 4th of July celebrations, I don't think we'll get 100% answers on anything from either side of the border... which sucks since all these "Canada day sales" will have then expired. Such bs.
 
jiffx2781 said:
That's what I noticed as well which explains the accuracy difference between calibers. The 308 is geared towards guys who want hunting rifle accuracy or want to blast away with cheap ammo. There is no need for a high end barrel for either purpose.



And without it actually being confirmed, (that I've been able to find anyways) I would hazard a guess and say that the stainless 6.5 CM barrel is made by Ballistic Advantage. Both the 22" and 24" seem to be the exact same contour and specs as the BA barrel. Not to mention that given Stags affiliation with BA and Aero it would make perfect sense to use the BA barrel.

If I'm correct in my assumption that the 6.5's are using a BA barrel I think people buying one of these guns are going to be rather impressed. BA makes an extremely accurate barrel for the money.

Some confirmation from Stag or AE on who makes these barrels would be appreciated.
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Given I have zero experience with BA barrels, can you offer some insight on how they would compare to a Kreiger? I'm not expecting them to be on the same level of playing field, but my immediate instinct was buy the receiver set and screw on a Kreiger, but that would be quite pricey (custom contour on top of an already pricey AR10 build). If the BA barrel is capable of holding sub-MOA, then my thought may shift to purchasing the rifle whole...

Thanks for any opinion in advance.
 
Slug870 said:
Given I have zero experience with BA barrels, can you offer some insight on how they would compare to a Kreiger? I'm not expecting them to be on the same level of playing field, but my immediate instinct was buy the receiver set and screw on a Kreiger, but that would be quite pricey (custom contour on top of an already pricey AR10 build). If the BA barrel is capable of holding sub-MOA, then my thought may shift to purchasing the rifle whole...

Thanks for any opinion in advance.
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My opinion is of course pointless drivel without actually knowing if these are in fact BA barrels. But here it goes anyways.

Kreiger or any of the other top barrel makers are obviously the way to go if your ultimate goal is to wring out every last bit of potential in the platform. But as always you pay a lot more for that last little bit of gain.

BA barrels are among the top in "performance for your dollar". You get a lot for your money but there is always going to be better if you are willing to pay.

My only experience with BA is a 18" heavy 223 wylde barrel that turned a 1.25 - 1.5 moa gun into a consistent .7 - .8 moa gun with nothing more than the barrel change. It was a lot of performance gain for a barrel that cost less than 300 bucks. These barrels are also what I call "boat anchor" profile which helps with consistency. I have no idea if the same barrel would still be able to perform if it was in a lighter contour.

There are a handful of guys who posted on CGN that installed 6.5 CM BA barrels on their BCL 102 and they have shown excellent results. I see no foreseeable difference if the same barrel were to be used on the Stag rifle or receiver set.

It would be nice to know what barrel does come from factory on the Stag. If that's something they are willing to disclose. It may help a few people make their decision what route to take.
 
jiffx2781 said:
My opinion is of course pointless drivel without actually knowing if these are in fact BA barrels. But here it goes anyways.

Kreiger or any of the other top barrel makers are obviously the way to go if your ultimate goal is to wring out every last bit of potential in the platform. But as always you pay a lot more for that last little bit of gain.

BA barrels are among the top in "performance for your dollar". You get a lot for your money but there is always going to be better if you are willing to pay.

My only experience with BA is a 18" heavy 223 wylde barrel that turned a 1.25 - 1.5 moa gun into a consistent .7 - .8 moa gun with nothing more than the barrel change. It was a lot of performance gain for a barrel that cost less than 300 bucks. These barrels are also what I call "boat anchor" profile which helps with consistency. I have no idea if the same barrel would still be able to perform if it was in a lighter contour.

There are a handful of guys who posted on CGN that installed 6.5 CM BA barrels on their BCL 102 and they have shown excellent results. I see no foreseeable difference if the same barrel were to be used on the Stag rifle or receiver set.

It would be nice to know what barrel does come from factory on the Stag. If that's something they are willing to disclose. It may help a few people make their decision what route to take.
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Thank you for that. I understand the price vs performance factor when comparing BA to Kreiger, and looking back perhaps my query was improperly worded. You did however provide exactly what I was asking for in your answer; I appreciate it.

I'll have to look back, but there was a thread from Jerry at Mystic Precision on installing a barrel on a BCL 102 that turned out to be very accurate, I just cant remember if it was a BA barrel... but I digress.

I agree that it would be nice to know what barrel is offered from the factory by Stag; hopefully we get that information as it would certainly help in the purchase direction in terms of build or buy complete.
 
Slug870 said:
There is a stout difference between a friendly ribbing between a known customer and a business vs being outright rude and ignorant and... wait for it... childish on a vendors forum; but hey have at 'er buds... you win the internet.
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Ya sure call it whatever as you wish.

The fact is, none of us here are intentionally trying to disrespect the vendor, however, understand why some of us feel the way to feel...

dangertree said:
You didnt misread. Sorry for the delay, still nailing down config for the 18.5" version. We expect an update after lunch tomorrow.
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that was a quote from the 26th of June in this thread. If you are a potential buyer and when the dealer makes a statement like that you are definitely looking forward for the update....but when someone asked about the update 2 days later

B34R said:
I'll go out on a limb and hazard a guess that most emails hover around the theme of "What's the .308 pricing, specs and when can I buy one?"

Any answers?
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what did the poster get instead?
dangertree said:
lol!
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And another poster was ignored after that
tinman304 said:
So, no?
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We are all adults here and if you are going to ride on your high horse and call people childish that is fine since this is the internet but do not mistake/ignore the reason behind all those posts.
 
fluidmax said:
Ya sure call it whatever as you wish.

The fact is, none of us here are intentionally trying to disrespect the vendor, however, understand why some of us feel the way to feel...



that was a quote from the 26th of June in this thread. If you are a potential buyer and when the dealer makes a statement like that you are definitely looking forward for the update....but when someone asked about the update 2 days later



what did the poster get instead?


And another poster was ignored after that


We are all adults here and if you are going to ride on your high horse and call people childish that is fine since this is the internet but do not mistake/ignore the reason behind all those posts.
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Ack. I hear what you are saying and get it. However, some of the posts were far from adult-like and that is why I made my comment.

I don't care to go back and quote them, but needless slander, comparing Arms East to BCL, threatening to go to IRG..... really?!

I don't know how many people in this thread have actually dealt with Arms East, but they are top notch people, so yeah, it is bothersome to see people going beyond voicing a legitimate consumer concern and taking it to a childish level. Sorry; not on in my books when I have personally dealt with Arms East multiple times.

I stand by what I said previously;

I agree with you, however as adults we are expected to behave to a higher standard, not b*tch and moan when a company doing their best to get us what we want doesn't reply immediately or instantaneously reply to every question fielded off the cuff. My point here is the Stag 10s is coming... it may be a few days, hell even a week; but its coming from the folks who have been THE Stag importer for the last ten years. If people want to get on here and cry about a few days delay and threaten to go to the "other guys", so be it, I just figured the majority of us as a community had a little more class than that.

Look brother, I have no personal beef with you, and if you only knew me you'd laugh at the very suggestion of me "riding a high horse". I just call a spade a spade and while I get your point 110%, I am sure that you will agree that some of the posts have been less than mature and or respectful.

All the best to you, and I hope to discuss the Stag AR10s further when we both have our rifles and or builds in hand.
 
Slug870 said:
Ack. I hear what you are saying and get it. However, some of the posts were far from adult-like and that is why I made my comment.

I don't care to go back and quote them, but needless slander, comparing Arms East to BCL, threatening to go to IRG..... really?!

I don't know how many people in this thread have actually dealt with Arms East, but they are top notch people, so yeah, it is bothersome to see people going beyond voicing a legitimate consumer concern and taking it to a childish level. Sorry; not on in my books when I have personally dealt with Arms East multiple times.

I stand by what I said previously;

I agree with you, however as adults we are expected to behave to a higher standard, not b*tch and moan when a company doing their best to get us what we want doesn't reply immediately or instantaneously reply to every question fielded off the cuff. My point here is the Stag 10s is coming... it may be a few days, hell even a week; but its coming from the folks who have been THE Stag importer for the last ten years. If people want to get on here and cry about a few days delay and threaten to go to the "other guys", so be it, I just figured the majority of us as a community had a little more class than that.

Look brother, I have no personal beef with you, and if you only knew me you'd laugh at the very suggestion of me "riding a high horse". I just call a spade a spade and while I get your point 110%, I am sure that you will agree that some of the posts have been less than mature and or respectful.

All the best to you, and I hope to discuss the Stag AR10s further when we both have our rifles and or builds in hand.
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That was refreshing to see on this forum. Was about to give up after seeing nothing has changed in the last 15 years on here but this makes me feel like this community has a chance.

TY
 
Para D said:
That was refreshing to see on this forum. Was about to give up after seeing nothing has changed in the last 15 years on here but this makes me feel like this community has a chance.

TY
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Cheers Brother, thank you for your post.
 
Slug870 said:
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I stand by what I said previously;

I agree with you, however as adults we are expected to behave to a higher standard, not b*tch and moan when a company doing their best to get us what we want doesn't reply immediately or instantaneously reply to every question fielded off the cuff. My point here is the Stag 10s is coming... it may be a few days, hell even a week; but its coming from the folks who have been THE Stag importer for the last ten years. If people want to get on here and cry about a few days delay and threaten to go to the "other guys", so be it, I just figured the majority of us as a community had a little more class than that.

Look brother, I have no personal beef with you, and if you only knew me you'd laugh at the very suggestion of me "riding a high horse". I just call a spade a spade and while I get your point 110%, I am sure that you will agree that some of the posts have been less than mature and or respectful.

All the best to you, and I hope to discuss the Stag AR10s further when we both have our rifles and or builds in hand.
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My bad man, I took it a bit too far with my replies when quoting your posts. You sounded like a reasonable guy and perhaps I was a little too harsh on AE with all the excitement surrounding this rifle. I will now keep my mouth shut and just wait and see how this play out.

cheers,
 
I'm a lefty but have always used right handed ARs personally and at work. Haven't noticed any issues really and I've gotten used to it. Is there really any point to me purchasing a left hand model of this is the case?
 
fluidmax said:
My bad man, I took it a bit too far with my replies when quoting your posts. You sounded like a reasonable guy and perhaps I was a little too harsh on AE with all the excitement surrounding this rifle. I will now keep my mouth shut and just wait and see how this play out.

cheers,
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Damn, now that's how you human. Good on you two
 
I like the fact that if I have a catastrophic failure the ejection port isn't pointed at my face. I have many left handed Stags and can say there is 3 proprietary parts- the bolt carrier, the upper receiver and the barrel extension. Apparently the barrel extension is chamfered for the bolt to rotate clockwise on lockup but I haven't confirmed that.

As for the lefty upper and bolt carrier- I've yet to wear those out and need to repair them.
 
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SJAR said:
I like the fact that if I have a catastrophic failure the ejection port isn't pointed at my face. I have many left handed Stags and can say there is 3 proprietary parts- the bolt carrier, the upper receiver and the barrel extension. Apparently the barrel extension is chamfered for the bolt to rotate counter clockwise on lockup but I haven't confirmed that.

As for the lefty upper and bolt carrier- I've yet to wear those out and need to repair them.
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I shoot left and have had a bad failure. All the force went down through the magwell so having the port in front off my face was not an issue. In case anyone was interested in hearing about a real world example.
 
skooch said:
I’m a lefty but don’t understand the need for a lefty AR. What is the concern?
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I'm a lefty and have both lefty and righty AR's...to be honest, the only reason why I like shooting my lefty better is because the port is on the correct side I seem to inhale less of the gasses. I get a wicked headache after putting a bunch of rounds through my righty. Otherwise, they are all setup to be ambi, so no other issues, really. Probably wouldn't be sending as many rounds through a .308 than the .223, so probably not really an issue with the Stag 10.
 
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