"magnumitis"

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The usually accepted definitive proof is if you have ever unthinkingly uttered the phrase "nice little gun" for something light and between a 300 and .375 mag and meant it.

Short of that, if you have sort concluded that there's nothing a good little fast gun can do that a good bigger and just as fast gun can't do better you're well on your way.

Well, I thought my original .375 Ultra was a nice lil gun, but that was after a .416 Rigby and a fly weight .458.
 
Now could be a good time to ask... is this Magnumitis contagious...? How does one get, welll... tested? I’m nervous I may be affected, new wildcat with a .308 I’m fiddling with below.

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Just an awesome chambering. What rifle if you don’t mind me asking? Nobody that has a .500 Jeff doesn’t handload but if you ever find yourself with too much fired brass you know who to call for money. And careful, an old trapper who I suspect is made up for the source of entertainment, or at least the comment is fictional, says we’re numbskulls for shooting rifles over .30-06.
 
I have nothing against magnums, but I will happily shoot a target at 300 yds 100 times with a 7 3/4 pound 270 next to someone with a same weight 300 for money.
The single largest gadget I’ve seen added to rifles in the last five years are muzzle brakes. I wonder why.


I’m a little surprised nobody has taken Chuck up on the challenge. If I was to pick a horse from this thread to win in the challenge with a .300, it’s Dogleg.
 
I only own one magnum that is not a hotrodded handgun cartridge in a rifle; but man the 500 jeffery case is stirring something up in me.

I've been flirting with the idea of a 458 win mag for a while, but lately I've been getting into smaller bores cartridges that I always disregarded.

Last four rifles I bought were in 7.62x39, 8x57, .556 and .303 brit. I was always a big and slow guy, I think I might have reverse magnumitis now.
 
Just an awesome chambering. What rifle if you don’t mind me asking? Nobody that has a .500 Jeff doesn’t handload but if you ever find yourself with too much fired brass you know who to call for money. And careful, an old trapper who I suspect is made up for the source of entertainment, or at least the comment is fictional, says we’re numbskulls for shooting rifles over .30-06.

It's a Sako 85 XL. I couldn't find any brass in Canada so I bought 50 rounds of it. I have CH4D dies for it and Woodleigh PPSN and Hydrostatics.

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Just an awesome chambering. What rifle if you don’t mind me asking? Nobody that has a .500 Jeff doesn’t handload but if you ever find yourself with too much fired brass you know who to call for money. And careful, an old trapper who I suspect is made up for the source of entertainment, or at least the comment is fictional, says we’re numbskulls for shooting rifles over .30-06.

Numbskull is NOT what was said..thats Your input.

what was said and meant is...magnums just don’t always deliver the knockout punch they’re supposed to. Doesn’t mean they’re puny or underpowered—it just means that bullets don’t perform like the punch from a heavyweight boxer. Despite all those foot-pounds of energy in a magnum, it’s not going to hit like a sledgehammer and pound all game into an early grave in an instant. And for the expert advice you toss into the mix it seems it should be prevalent, however thats not so and obvious. Myself, just trying to see both sides of Magnum or No magnum
 
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Not like the old days where a hunter had an odd-six or 30-30 and actually hunted. To lazy to get out of a vehicle, or walk down an animal...yeah the hunting is gone to Magnumitis.

I think he has a point.

Actually that’s the Coles notes on what your wise old trapper apparently said (by the way Dogleg’s a wise trapper, and shoots more “magnums” than anyone here), it’s not overly friendly towards rounds above .30-06. ;) I suspect you came up with it on a quiet evening and the trapper’s comments are artistic licence, but there’s nothing wrong with that, Capstick was famous for it.

My experience outfitting in BC has been dramatically different, “magnum” is just a marketing label applied from rimfire up. It generally correlates with speed, and speed is indisputably lethal, seen too many impressive kills from faster rounds to deny it though I wanted to for a long time, being a previous moderate cartridge fan.

In the end there are no magnums and magnumitis, there are practiced shooters and there are yokels who shoot little. If hunting has a disease it’s truckhuntinitis and atvinitis. I’ll never push someone to buy a “magnum” and heavily advocate .270s and the like to clients, however a .300 is better. It’s a .270 with a bigger bullet, it works, and practiced folks have no trouble shooting it. The lady with her Grizz their Hoytcanon guided at my outfit, she shoots a .300 too and made a perfect ~220 yard kill, bear died ten to fifteen yards from the shot.

These guys are a hundred Kms from a road and worked so damn hard for their animals it’s tough to accept they’re all tainted with magnunmitis. :d There are hunters and there are rednecks, perhaps go after redneckitis rather than trying to put people into groups based on the cartridges they shoot. ;) There is probably more lazy hunting done with .30-30s and .303s than .300s.

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do you prefer the 416 or the 458?

The .416 is more versatile due to its flat trajectory with pointed bullets and high velocity (350 @ 2850). If a Rigby, Ultra, or .378 case is necked up to .458, that advantage no longer exists. However, I can shoot a hot loaded .416 Rigby prone should the need arise, but I'm not inclined to try that with a normal weight .460 Weatherby, so there is a point of diminishing returns, and I'm disinclined to use a muzzle brake.
 
"Mine's smaller" is just another way of saying "Mines bigger". The implication is that since mine's smaller I must be better. There many examples of this in shooting.

Mine's smaller = I'm better

I dont need that fancy stuff = I don't have that fancy stuff.

Nobody can handle that recoil = I can't handle that recoil.

Nobody can shoot that far = I can't shoot that far.

Nobody needs to shoot that far = around here short shots are the norm.

He thinks everyone should use whatever he uses = I'm offended that he doesn't care what I use.


All you need is a blank = All I got is a blank.

There's no difference = I can't tell the difference (occasionally means "I'll be damned, there isn't much difference under conditions that everything works."

It's so much easier with the translations; I'm surprised that there isn't an iPhone app for it.


As an added bonus here's a couple to translate women-speak.

She says "Fine" it doesn't = "Fine" There's not an exact translation in male English but the closest is "Eat feces and die".

"Do whatever you want" doesn't mean "Do whatever you want". It means "Fine".
 
"Mine's smaller" is just another way of saying "Mines bigger". The implication is that since mine's smaller I must be better. There many examples of this in shooting.

Mine's smaller = I'm better

I dont need that fancy stuff = I don't have that fancy stuff.

Nobody can handle that recoil = I can't handle that recoil.

Nobody can shoot that far = I can't shoot that far.

Nobody needs to shoot that far = around here short shots are the norm.

He thinks everyone should use whatever he uses = I'm offended that he doesn't care what I use.


All you need is a blank = All I got is a blank.

There's no difference = I can't tell the difference (occasionally means "I'll be damned, there isn't much difference under conditions that everything works."

It's so much easier with the translations; I'm surprised that there isn't an iPhone app for it.


As an added bonus here's a couple to translate women-speak.

She says "Fine" it doesn't = "Fine" There's not an exact translation in male English but the closest is "Eat feces and die".

"Do whatever you want" doesn't mean "Do whatever you want". It means "Fine".

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"perhaps go after redneckitis" Well... as a self-described, old time redneck I say FINE.

Anyway, as for the old trapper bit; is sage a savoury herb or a smelly weed?
 
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