"magnumitis"

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Lately I've been reading some Forest and Stream's from the 1880's, the letters to the editor are exactly the same as CGN; buckshot, bear defence, peashooters vs bigbores.

Only the medium has changed.
 
Ardent said:
Pretty sure the old trapper vision from the beginning of this thread buried him.
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There's even the line that modern, ie repeating rifles, are fine for soldiers, but the sportsman uses a single or double. Same as today with Fudds and Black Rifles.
 
I like guns... all sorts of guns... rimfire, small, medium, big bores... I like a tiny, little "pop" and I like a stiff "horse kick" to the shoulder... the choice on which to pull on any given day has more to do with whim than anything... as long as it has sufficient horsepower, it's all good.
 
Ardent said:
Well we can all agree with that one, that’s just common sense. Even better if it’s a magnum.
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Those are called "Express" and they are tested at 150 yards because they don't fly true at 200. So says a 1880's letter writer.
 
Ardunt said:
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Actually that’s the Coles notes on what your wise old trapper apparently said (by the way Dogleg’s a wise trapper, and shoots more “magnums” than anyone here), it’s not overly friendly towards rounds above .30-06. ;) I suspect you came up with it on a quiet evening and the trapper’s comments are artistic licence, but there’s nothing wrong with that, Capstick was famous for it.

My experience outfitting in BC has been dramatically different, “magnum” is just a marketing label applied from rimfire up. It generally correlates with speed, and speed is indisputably lethal, seen too many impressive kills from faster rounds to deny it though I wanted to for a long time, being a previous moderate cartridge fan.

In the end there are no magnums and magnumitis, there are practiced shooters and there are yokels who shoot little. If hunting has a disease it’s truckhuntinitis and atvinitis. I’ll never push someone to buy a “magnum” and heavily advocate .270s and the like to clients, however a .300 is better. It’s a .270 with a bigger bullet, it works, and practiced folks have no trouble shooting it. The lady with her Grizz their Hoytcanon guided at my outfit, she shoots a .300 too and made a perfect ~220 yard kill, bear died ten to fifteen yards from the shot.

These guys are a hundred Kms from a road and worked so damn hard for their animals it’s tough to accept they’re all tainted with magnunmitis. :d There are hunters and there are rednecks, perhaps go after redneckitis rather than trying to put people into groups based on the cartridges they shoot. ;) There is probably more lazy hunting done with .30-30s and .303s than .300s.

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Again Your perspective based on a out of the blue comment tossed into the mix for answers....maybe you require a Tissue for your issue?
 
1899 said:
Uh...what do you disagree about? Ardunt’s perspectives are based on his experiences. As are mine. And yours. When you ask a question on a public forum you are likely to get varying responses.
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Yes based on Ardents experiences, with emotions, obviously, since he thinks the Magnumitis comment is a personal attack on his pals Which is ok, because owning a Magnum maybe an emotional excuse to own one. The original post was not meant to be an attack on ones person, but an obsevation without labeling rifle owners; a general obsevation (like saying all unionized workers are lazy)...magnum or non-magnum
And it is interesting to see the cheap shots (changing names on a post or smart ass remarks..i am even guilty of those) to provoke reponses to sway others one way or the other.
With some it is ballistic reasearch in magnum owning or disowning.
For myself which has been very obvious have been away from gun owning for a long time until lately due to life and now have a chance to get back into it, and i ask questions or start posts to pull info from others who know way more than i will ever know to get an understanding.

As far as the Varying reponses...there are plenty...from senseless to actual facts.

Sherlock Home once remarked through the eyes Sir Aurther Conan Doyle
"Education never ends, Watson. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last."
 
Would I own a magnum rifle? Sure why not, if it filled a need I would have no problem with buying one. I have shot a friends 7mm Rem at the range, recoil wasn’t bad and it was an accurate shooting rifle. Currently my .303 shooting 180g sp’s drops everything I hunt perfectly fine and I love hunting with an Enfield, so I’m happy to keep doing so. I have some magnum 12g loads and they are good fun to shoot, they work like a hot damn as well.
 
adamthebad said:
Yes based on Ardents experiences, with emotions, obviously, since he thinks the Magnumitis comment is a personal attack on his pals Which is ok, because owning a Magnum maybe an emotional excuse to own one. The original post was not meant to be an attack on ones person, but an obsevation without labeling rifle owners; a general obsevation (like saying all unionized workers are lazy)...magnum or non-magnum
And it is interesting to see the cheap shots (changing names on a post or smart ass remarks..i am even guilty of those) to provoke reponses to sway others one way or the other.
With some it is ballistic reasearch in magnum owning or disowning.
For myself which has been very obvious have been away from gun owning for a long time until lately due to life and now have a chance to get back into it, and i ask questions or start posts to pull info from others who know way more than i will ever know to get an understanding.

As far as the Varying reponses...there are plenty...from senseless to actual facts.

Sherlock Home once remarked through the eyes Sir Aurther Conan Doyle
"Education never ends, Watson. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last."
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BS. You opened with people not being real hunters and too lazy to get out of the truck and have worked your way up to magnum owners needing some emotional excuse.
 
adamthebad said:
My trapper neighbor swings by for a coffee and we were chatting about what hunters have for rifles these days, and he remembered me asking about the 458 Wilson. He sat back in his chair after sipping on his coffee and said, "the disease that the USA has has made it up in to Canada and its called Magnumitis." I asked WTH is that? He said it seems that no one these days can hunt these days unless its a magnum, bigger, faster, tenderizes instantly, blows the animal to bits. Not like the old days where a hunter had an odd-six or 30-30 and actually hunted. To lazy to get out of a vehicle, or walk down an animal...yeah the hunting is gone to Magnumitis.

I think he has a point.
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You likely have a decent grasp of the English language, given that you quote Sherlock Home [sic], so I ask you to read the highlighted parts of your initial post. Please consider them objectively and tell me, does your post not seem condescending? It is a personal attack on people who use magnum chamberings. Your post says you believe he has a point when he states that people who use a magnum are (a) poor hunters and (b) lazy.

adamthebad said:
Yes based on Ardents experiences, with emotions, obviously, since he thinks the Magnumitis comment is a personal attack on his pals Which is ok, because owning a Magnum maybe an emotional excuse to own one. The original post was not meant to be an attack on ones person, but an obsevation without labeling rifle owners; a general obsevation (like saying all unionized workers are lazy)...magnum or non-magnum
And it is interesting to see the cheap shots (changing names on a post or smart ass remarks..i am even guilty of those) to provoke reponses to sway others one way or the other.
With some it is ballistic reasearch in magnum owning or disowning.
For myself which has been very obvious have been away from gun owning for a long time until lately due to life and now have a chance to get back into it, and i ask questions or start posts to pull info from others who know way more than i will ever know to get an understanding.

As far as the Varying reponses...there are plenty...from senseless to actual facts.

Sherlock Home once remarked through the eyes Sir Aurther Conan Doyle
"Education never ends, Watson. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last."
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There are people on here who can and do share excellent information. If you truly want to learn, then sit back and learn. It is not that hard to figure out who has some experience to back up their opinions. Unfortunately many have also stopped posting in the 14 years that I have been on CGN, and I suspect this is because of the ever increasing drama.



There are many ways to ask for information.
 
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