Man dies following hunting accident in Nova Scotia: RCMP

Cranky Pants said:
It isnt like out west here, binoculars are useless, most shots are under 150 feet and if you arent set up you will get busted. Ive shot many under 50 feet.

Different sort of hunting.
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I have had a gun pointed at me by someone like you. Looking through his scope at a noise.

It is inexcusable behavior.


Perhaps verify that it is at least not a person before scoping it. If you lose your chance at a deer practising safe hunting, who cares.....

I actually thought the original post was a joke.
 
Ardent said:
Orange is a response to poor target identification. In B.C. I can’t remember the last person accidentally shot that wasn’t during a grizzly attack, going through a fence etc, different circumstances, we wear camo or drab colours here.

We also have point and horn restrictions on most species meaning if your don’t stop and count tines or check horn curl etc, you can enjoy a court date. That’s probably a factor in the lack of deer and moose hunters shooting each other here despite being camo’d, we’re used to having to study the animal to make sure it’s legal in many zones. Moose in my zone is 3 brow tines on one side or ten points total on one antler, that can take some study through the binos especially when a point is marginal and you’re trying to see if it qualifies through thick bush. I had to get to 25 yards on one good sized bull this year in the willows and alders to determine he was a point shy of legal. It as thick in much of the BC bush as anywhere, yet the blacktail hunters aren’t shooting each other.

People need to put the rifle to the side and hold their binos. Then again we don’t do driven hunts here either.
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Ardent, a driven hunt is a different ballgame for sure. lots happening and hard to hold binos in a tree quietly. that being said, at least verify by eye it is a deer. it isn't hard. Even if you shoulder your rifle and don't point it. if the der is close, you will see it by eye. no binos required.


I hunt pheasants a lot at a private club in southern Ontario I am a member at. I can 1000% assure you that hunter orange is essential to not getting shot in quick shooting situations with 4-5 guys out there and hedgerows and trees, etc. Things happen quickly. we are walk up hunting over flushing dogs. we have a rule to shoot only if/when you see sky but a woodcock flushing and hammering it towards the bush or something like that it can be hard not to swing on it even for experienced wingshooters and the orange helps you know where your buddies are big time. I woulnt go out without some orange on nor would I hunt with someone who refused to do so.

In the mountains I have always worn full camo or denim. Same in Alberta mule deer country and whitetail woods. he big difference is that in Ontario and some other areas the one week season draws out every single moron into the woods at the same time. Opening day is scary. I am lucky to hunt private land I cant imagine the crown land and huntable areas in Southern ON.


You make an excellent point about BC- never considered that.
 
It is sad to say but hunters are separated in two categories:

The first, who are careful, use safe practices, know their limitations, conservationist and overall good sportsmen.

Then the second category, the careless idiots who don't practice, take ridiculous shots, shoot at movement or sound and have absolutely no regard for safety or fellow hunters. The same guys will often "practice" or "sight in" their rifles the opening day by shooting at coyotes, they'll scope everything that moves, including guys wearing orange, they will drink booze, smoke weed and are most likely up to shady shyte. They'll threaten others and be extremely jealous or territorial (even on public land or have the audacity to trespass and challenge you for being there pretending they're the owner). They most likely are greasy f@ckers who pick fights with other parents at their kids football/soccer/hockey games, their answer to any type of altercation is to be violent and will always complain when caught in the wrong and pretend they were in the right, for example; "I was caught doing 100km/hr in a school zone, f&cking cops and their quotas".
 
stubblejumper said:
So you are saying that the bush is thicker in N.S. than the interior of BC. or the coastal B.C.rain forest, where there is no color requirement?
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Christ what happened to alberta
I have no idea what the woods is like in BC I have never been fortunate enough to hunt there
I have been shot at once and it was back in the days of no orange and red checkered woolrich shirts. Thank f'k the guy was a bad shot
After that I am orange from head to toe and it hasn't hurt my hunting at all
If it stops one idiot from shooting at me it is worth it
I would bet also you can hunt for miles and miles in BC and see no one vs pulling in and seeing six or eight trucks parked on the wood road where your blind is in NS
Cheers
 
scruffee said:
It is sad to say but hunters are separated in two categories:

The first, who are careful, use safe practices, know their limitations, conservationist and overall good sportsmen.

Then the second category, the careless idiots who don't practice, take ridiculous shots, shoot at movement or sound and have absolutely no regard for safety or fellow hunters. The same guys will often "practice" or "sight in" their rifles the opening day by shooting at coyotes, they'll scope everything that moves, including guys wearing orange, they will drink booze, smoke weed and are most likely up to shady shyte. They'll threaten others and be extremely jealous or territorial (even on public land or have the audacity to trespass and challenge you for being there pretending they're the owner). They most likely are greasy f@ckers who pick fights with other parents at their kids football/soccer/hockey games, their answer to any type of altercation is to be violent and will always complain when caught in the wrong and pretend they were in the right, for example; "I was caught doing 100km/hr in a school zone, f&cking cops and their quotas".
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That sums it up. I call the second group here idiots with orange on since they are not hunters IMO
Cheers
 
Idiots will be idiots and slobs will be slobs.
A guy local to me was hunting up in the Pink Mountain area.
Two guys on two quads.
Big bright red Honda with a guy who weighed in at 150 pounds on top of said vehicle.
Glassing an area when he was shot not once buy twice by some idiot/slob or was it a drunk with a gun.
The shooter was older than the guy on the atv who was hit in the leg and required much surgery and still has remnants of said bullets in his body.
http://http://www.vancouversun.com/Hunter+serious+condition+after+getting+shot+fellow+sportsman+near+Fort+John/7400271/story.html
I'm surprised our resident clip and paste expert hadnt mentioned this incident in relation to his current investigative skill set.
 
scruffee said:
It is sad to say but hunters are separated in two categories:

The first, who are careful, use safe practices, know their limitations, conservationist and overall good sportsmen.

Then the second category, the careless idiots who don't practice, take ridiculous shots, shoot at movement or sound and have absolutely no regard for safety or fellow hunters. The same guys will often "practice" or "sight in" their rifles the opening day by shooting at coyotes, they'll scope everything that moves, including guys wearing orange, they will drink booze, smoke weed and are most likely up to shady shyte. They'll threaten others and be extremely jealous or territorial (even on public land or have the audacity to trespass and challenge you for being there pretending they're the owner). They most likely are greasy f@ckers who pick fights with other parents at their kids football/soccer/hockey games, their answer to any type of altercation is to be violent and will always complain when caught in the wrong and pretend they were in the right, for example; "I was caught doing 100km/hr in a school zone, f&cking cops and their quotas".
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The second group are also the ones who shoot up gun ranges, haul stuff to the forest and leave it there, a couple of George Carlen quotes sum things up quite nicely;

"Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of 'em are stupider than that."
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to have selfish, ignorant leaders."
"Here's all you need to know about men and women. Women are crazy. Men are stupid. And the main reason women are crazy is that men are stupid."
 
3macs1 said:
Christ what happened to alberta
I have no idea what the woods is like in BC I have never been fortunate enough to hunt there
I have been shot at once and it was back in the days of no orange and red checkered woolrich shirts. Thank f'k the guy was a bad shot
After that I am orange from head to toe and it hasn't hurt my hunting at all
If it stops one idiot from shooting at me it is worth it
I would bet also you can hunt for miles and miles in BC and see no one vs pulling in and seeing six or eight trucks parked on the wood road where your blind is in NS
Cheers
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If I had no choice but to hunt next to six or eight truckloads of other hunters, I wouldn't bother. No amount of orange is going to make me comfortable with that many hunters with high powered rifles, that close to me.
 
Gatehouse said:
It seems most hunter shooting accidents are in areas with orange requirements.
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Again remember in these areas we are packed in like sardines hunting the same land so the risk is much higher
Quick question in BC if you left your tree blind up over night would it be there the next morning or better when you got there the next morning would some stranger be sitting in it
Welcome to Nova Scotia
Cheers
 
stubblejumper said:
If I had no choice but to hunt next to six or eight truckloads of other hunters, I wouldn't bother. No amount of orange is going to make me comfortable with that many hunters with high powered rifles, that close to me.
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It is all how you were raised. Seeing other hunters while hunting for most in NS is the norm so if you want to hunt you don't have a lot of choice
Not as bad here now but in the mid 80's when we had 100,000 big game hunters vs maybe 40,000 now be nothing to count 30-40 rounds going off when the sun was coming up or evening. You guys more than likely never hear another shot
That is regardless if crown or private land since here hunters can cross and hunt your private land with no permission
Cheers
 
Could this have been prevented by the use of body armor as a safety device ? just putting it out there considering all the talk lately about how private citizens should not own it, many people from the hunting and shooting community itself.
 
Baddog377 said:
Could this have been prevented by the use of body armor as a safety device ? just putting it out there considering all the talk lately about how private citizens should not own it, many people from the hunting and shooting community itself.
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Are you aware as to what level of body armor it would take to stop a bullet out of a high powered rifle like a 300win mag?
 
stubblejumper said:
Way too many years to call it luck. BC. desn't seem to have an issue either.
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I don't think you guys know what goes on around you.
I have not even looked yet one small snap shot

One publicized incident occurred Oct. 5 in Prince Albert, Sask. when a 63-year-old man inadvertently shot and killed his 36-year-old son on a hunting expedition.

That same day, a Grand Prairie, Alta. woman was shot in the torso and died after hunting with family members, RCMP said.

A 22-year-old Ottawa hunter was killed in a hunting accident Oct. 1, and a Lake Country, B.C. man is believed to have accidentally shot himself with his hunting rifle while hiking through the bush between Sept. 29 and Oct. 4.

In northern B.C., a man was shot Oct. 16 by another hunter who mistook him for a wild animal. He was sent to hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

Police in northern British Columbia say charges will not be laid over a hunting accident that claimed the life of a 59-year-old U.S. man.

A 26-year-old man from Didsbury is dead after a hunting mishap in northwestern Alberta.

The BC Coroners Service has confirmed the identity of a man who died in a hunting accident near Nakusp on Nov. 12, 2014.
 
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3macs1 said:
I don't think you guys know what goes on around you.
I have not even looked yet one small snap shot

One publicized incident occurred Oct. 5 in Prince Albert, Sask. when a 63-year-old man inadvertently shot and killed his 36-year-old son on a hunting expedition.

That same day, a Grand Prairie, Alta. woman was shot in the torso and died after hunting with family members, RCMP said.

A 22-year-old Ottawa hunter was killed in a hunting accident Oct. 1, and a Lake Country, B.C. man is believed to have accidentally shot himself with his hunting rifle while hiking through the bush between Sept. 29 and Oct. 4.

In northern B.C., a man was shot Oct. 16 by another hunter who mistook him for a wild animal. He was sent to hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

Police in northern British Columbia say charges will not be laid over a hunting accident that claimed the life of a 59-year-old U.S. man.

A 26-year-old man from Didsbury is dead after a hunting mishap in northwestern Alberta.

The BC Coroners Service has confirmed the identity of a man who died in a hunting accident near Nakusp on Nov. 12, 2014.
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Prince Albert is in Saskatchewan, where there is a color requirement. Obviously color has no effect on self inflicted gunshot wounds. Unless the incident is a case of a human being mistaken for an animal, or a human being ,being directly un line with an animal, the incident is irrelevant. And in most cases where the shooter claims to see an animal, there is no proof that there actually was an animal. And even though orange is not a legal requirement in some provinces, some of the people shot are wearing orange anyways. And you had to go back several years, to come up with these examples, which shows how seldom people are shot after being mistaken for animals.
 
It’s not that they never happen in BC, it’s just very rare. And it’s usually questionable that orange would have helped anyway. A few years ago someone riding an ATV was shot. If you shot st red ATVs, orange wouldn’t matter. Many injuries and deaths are self inflicted or involve unsafe practices with loaded guns in vehicles.
 
Gatehouse said:
It’s not that they never happen in BC, it’s just very rare. And it’s usually questionable that orange would have helped anyway. A few years ago someone riding an ATV was shot. If you shot st red ATVs, orange wouldn’t matter.
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In one case, many years ago, two Alberta hunters were mistaken for a moose, as they rode a red ATV , both dressed in orange. Obviously the shooter was so stupid, that no precautions could have prevented this incident. Incidents like this do happen, but as you posted, they are rare.
 
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