Hunting Permission: Let’s talk Price

Paying for hunting will be the death of the sport here in Canada for sure unless of course you're rich or aboriginal. I couldn't afford to be paying $1000.00 per day to hunt so I guess I'd just have to read about it at the library and enjoy it that way.

No use joining any wildlife organizations either - what would be the point?

Might as well delete the hunting forum on this website as well - what would be the point?

No point in selling hunting and fishing gear either. Who's going to buy it?

Plenty of government land you could hunt for free.
 
Plenty of government land you could hunt for free.

Yeah along with the thousands of others that can't or won't pay the fees (no doubt ever increasing and with tax) demanded by the land owner. All of a sudden hunting no longer provides an attractive and affordable way to enjoy the outdoors.

Yet again, we lose privileges that made this country great and we're no longer any different than most citizens of Britain or Germany who can only dream of a hunt.

But hey, as long as you and the gov't are making money - that's the most important thing.

Maybe you can charge for bird watching too.:mad:
 
Paying for hunting will be the death of the sport here in Canada for sure unless of course you're rich or aboriginal. I couldn't afford to be paying $1000.00 per day to hunt so I guess I'd just have to read about it at the library and enjoy it that way.

No use joining any wildlife organizations either - what would be the point?

Might as well delete the hunting forum on this website as well - what would be the point?

No point in selling hunting and fishing gear either. Who's going to buy it?

You wouldn’t be paying $1000 a day to hunt, stop with the hyperbole.
 
Yeah along with the thousands of others that can't or won't pay the fees (no doubt ever increasing and with tax) demanded by the land owner. All of a sudden hunting no longer provides an attractive and affordable way to enjoy the outdoors.

Yet again, we lose privileges that made this country great and we're no longer any different than most citizens of Britain or Germany who can only dream of a hunt.

But hey, as long as you and the gov't are making money - that's the most important thing.

Maybe you can charge for bird watching too.:mad:

I guess I should feel bad that not everyone can afford to eat Prime Rib or Beef Tenderloin from the cattle I sell.
 
I guess I should feel bad that not everyone can afford to eat Prime Rib or Beef Tenderloin from the cattle I sell.

Thank God I am still hunting on a farmer's property in Alberta and he seems to genuinely enjoy the company we give when we show up (usually with a bottle - which is a gift and not payment and a token of our respect).

He is of the old school and dosen't seem to think that everything that walks, crawls or flies on his land has to turn a profit. His son, however is different - he's more like you so I fear that our days there are numbered as the farmer is already quite old.
 
What was the rationale for not allowing to charge a hunting access fee?

There is no such law in BC that I am aware of, and it's not really a controversial topic either. There is plenty of crown land to hunt in BC though.
 
Thank God I am still hunting on a farmer's property in Alberta and he seems to genuinely enjoy the company we give when we show up (usually with a bottle - which is a gift and not payment and a token of our respect).

He is of the old school and dosen't seem to think that everything that walks, crawls or flies on his land has to turn a profit. His son, however is different - he's more like you so I fear that our days there are numbered as the farmer is already quite old.

Better check the Alberta regs on that "gift"
 
You wouldn’t be paying $1000 a day to hunt, stop with the hyperbole.

Just using the figure already quoted by Scott earlier for hunting around Regina - but that really wasn't the point anyway. Paying for hunting will only escalate until it becomes unaffordable for the average hunter.
 
It always dismays me to see hunters divided.

The only problem I have with a fair market system is that I'll get priced out of the game, especially if you add the American factor.

If I can't afford to hunt then I'd probably retire from the sport and there would be one less advocate on the gunnutz behalf. I feel there are many like myself. Apparently up to 26k jobs lost in Oshawa this morning. I bet a lot of those people would like to put some meat on the table, but not if they have to gamble with next months food bill to do it.

But hey, our numbers our dwindling anyway, so why not cash out and hasten the end. It's more profitable to sell our resources to the highest bidding elite tourist than having hunting be part of our national identity and culture.

This is me as well.
 
What was the rationale for not allowing to charge a hunting access fee?

There is no such law in BC that I am aware of, and it's not really a controversial topic either. There is plenty of crown land to hunt in BC though.

The rational for not allowing charging to hunt is that contrary to how it is in many parts of Europe, the Crown or land owner does not own the wildlife. The wildlife belong to all the residents of the province. Therefore in this country it is possible for anyone to jump through all the hoops and finally get a hunting license and/or be selected in a draw to hunt a certain ### and species in a certain time frame in a particular land zone called a Wildlife Management Unit.

Sometimes there is Crown land available - sometimes not. If not, permission must be obtained. Charging for hunting is an added expense that while it was common in Europe was never common here and stretches the budget of what is already an expensive pastime for the average working stiff.

Hunting needs hunters to survive. If paying for hunting becomes widespread and common there will be fewer hunters and therefore less popular support for it and then finally direct attacks to eliminate it as what is now happening in B.C. (No more Grizzly bear hunt)

In Europe there is widespread anti hunting sentiment. In fact it is seen there as cruel but even more so it is a class struggle against the rich and well connected in which the average citizen has no hope of ever participating in.

I don't want to see that happening here. That is all I have to say.
 
The rational for not allowing charging to hunt is that contrary to how it is in many parts of Europe, the Crown or land owner does not own the wildlife. The wildlife belong to all the residents of the province. Therefore in this country it is possible for anyone to jump through all the hoops and finally get a hunting license and/or be selected in a draw to hunt a certain ### and species in a certain time frame in a particular land zone called a Wildlife Management Unit.

Sometimes there is Crown land available - sometimes not. If not, permission must be obtained. Charging for hunting is an added expense that while it was common in Europe was never common here and stretches the budget of what is already an expensive pastime for the average working stiff.

Hunting needs hunters to survive. If paying for hunting becomes widespread and common there will be fewer hunters and therefore less popular support for it and then finally direct attacks to eliminate it as what is now happening in B.C. (No more Grizzly bear hunt)

In Europe there is widespread anti hunting sentiment. In fact it is seen there as cruel but even more so it is a class struggle against the rich and well connected in which the average citizen has no hope of ever participating in.

I don't want to see that happening here. That is all I have to say.

I'm actually wondering about why actual laws were made regarding this in some provinces. At one point some organization or politician decided they needed this to be a law. Because it's perfectly legal in lots of places, so there must have been some regional reasoning behind it.
 
Yeah along with the thousands of others that can't or won't pay the fees (no doubt ever increasing and with tax) demanded by the land owner. All of a sudden hunting no longer provides an attractive and affordable way to enjoy the outdoors.

Yet again, we lose privileges that made this country great and we're no longer any different than most citizens of Britain or Germany who can only dream of a hunt.

But hey, as long as you and the gov't are making money - that's the most important thing.

Maybe you can charge for bird watching too.:mad:


These Farmers dont give 2 sh*ts what made a country great. We live in a time of greed......they want money plain and simple. I dont really blame them. If I owned prime land Id charge $1200 -2200 K a day and give it to the highest bidder. Maybe a Saudi Sheikh would hunt my land. Welcome to 2018.
 
The way the game regs are, for now, you don’t have to worry about the sheik. There is absolutely no hunting big game by foreigners in the southern half of the province. Illegal except for reserves, of course.
Canadian residents are limited to draw only, and from what my ex sask Alberta friends say, not many tags.
The only people this will negatively affect are Saskatchewan residents, mostly city folk.
With the way politics goes in the cities, I suspect in a few years we will see a lot of whining from farmers about the latest gun laws to “keep our city’s safe” , if you don’t have votes you are done. And by the way, the cities run the country, unfortunately.
And next time the deer cycle peaks, don’t think you will get any sympathy or money for depredation. I believe the term is f you and the horse you rode in on...
 
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The way the game regs are, for now, you don’t have to worry about the sheik. There is absolutely no hunting big game by foreigners in the southern half of the province. Illegal except for reserves, of course.
Canadian residents are limited to draw only, and from what my ex sask Alberta friends say, not many tags.
The only people this will negatively affect are Saskatchewan residents, mostly city folk.
With the way politics goes in the cities, I suspect in a few years we will see a lot of whining from farmers about the latest gun laws to “keep our city’s safe” , if you don’t have votes you are done. And by the way, the cities run the country, unfortunately.
And next time the deer cycle peaks, don’t think you will get any sympathy or money for depredation. I believe the term is f you and the horse you rode in on...

Its gonna happen, who cares about the city folk. As 99% of rural Sask would say......F**K em all.
 
I'm actually wondering about why actual laws were made regarding this in some provinces. At one point some organization or politician decided they needed this to be a law. Because it's perfectly legal in lots of places, so there must have been some regional reasoning behind it.

I thought I just gave you the reasoning behind it.
 
I don't get the pessimism here. I was a working stiff in Southern Saskatchewan where 85 percent of the land is privately owned for just short of 11 years. Mysteriously I did not pay cash to hunt several superb hunting acreages.

But I did buy a land owner map, pre season scout good looking areas. Knocked on doors and made friends.

It's called human interaction.
You should actually try it sometime.
 
I thought I just gave you the reasoning behind it.

No, you discussed European hunting and gave your opinion on the topic of paying for land access. You didn't provide any actual information about why and whom decided that some provinces needed to prohibit charging for access.
 
Well I'm not go to go and start looking up reams of data just for your curiosity. Suffice it to say it is illegal in Alberta and that was the reason behind it.

Who did what, when and how is for somebody with a lot more time on his hands to do.

You don't believe me - fine - I can live with that.
 
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