Russian SKS Importation Questions.

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US import results for Russian sks is going to be a few days. RM, the russian data-monster is out of town a few days.

Just looking over preliminary numbers, its likely well over 100k
 
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Small batch of 2.5k guns late 1990s from Croatia and similar. Rough condition from what I understand..... those would have been excellent collector specimens in my opinion.
 
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Perhaps I just talked to the gov?

Your looking at about 45k russians total into CA, Im not ratting out my source.


Ok, I think the lads are right and you are just a skeet troller, one importer alone brought in more than that you must be doing some. Bad meth down there. No sweat though, we will keep getting sks from many countries, and mosins, and svt40 and tt33 etc.etc. And still nice and cheap, 1949 all matching, Yugoslavia 59/66 unissued, experimental mosins with attached bayo, you name it we can get it, unissued Yugoslavia M57, $239.!!!
 
I hope you do!

Again... zero substance, just a bunch of wonk wonk.

Man.... we don't have any of those guns. SO JELLY! That's what you want isn't it? A pissing match with no data.

And for the love of Sam Houston, learn some grammar.
 
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I hope you do!

Again... zero substance, just a bunch of wonk wonk.

Man.... we don't have any of those guns. SO JELLY!


You have given us zero substance. All you say is here are my numbers and "i won't rat out my source." So nothing substantiated. You seem to think the Russian SKS that were being shot in Canada in the late 1980's didn't actually exist.
 
Laff....

I dunno, our 2A is under attack every single day. My passion is the SKS, and would only wish to exchange information with my northern brothers!

Some of us are just pulling your leg...

I wish to explore SKS's more as its a topic that doens't get much scrupulous attention.

In all seriousness, here is the thread that discusses some numbers:
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...610-How-much-is-SKS-from-Ukraine-REALLY-worth

From 2011 to 2015, the SKS number imported is roughly 50,000 units from Ukraine alone - on paper. However, I do know that in reality the number is likely higher for a number of reasons.

We also got a lot from Russia, and elsewhere. The numbers shared with me combined since the start of importation are into the hundreds of thousands of SKS units.

Distributors and dealers don't share these figures for a number of reasons.

As for later series letter guns, it is certainly an area for everyone to explore further. What I can say for certain is that both laminate and hardwood stocks were used post 1956, it isn't correct for anyone to say otherwise. I will post tons of pics for everyone to examine when I get some time.

We can have a civil dialogue, but the liar calling etc., needs to end. We are brothers and anyone who supports legal firearms ownership is a friend of mine.

You would be drooling if you could have seen the crates I have of SKS rifles and being allowed to open any crate and see inside. I am envious of all the cool guns you can buy, and I cannot.
 
Some of us are just pulling your leg...

I wish to explore SKS's more as its a topic that doens't get much scrupulous attention.

In all seriousness, here is the thread that discusses some numbers:
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...610-How-much-is-SKS-from-Ukraine-REALLY-worth

From 2011 to 2015, the SKS number imported is roughly 50,000 units from Ukraine alone - on paper. However, I do know that in reality the number is likely higher for a number of reasons.

We also got a lot from Russia, and elsewhere. The numbers shared with me combined since the start of importation are into the hundreds of thousands of SKS units.

Distributors and dealers don't share these figures for a number of reasons.

As for later series letter guns, it is certainly an area for everyone to explore further. What I can say for certain is that both laminate and hardwood stocks were used post 1956, it isn't correct for anyone to say otherwise. I will post tons of pics for everyone to examine when I get some time.

We can have a civil dialogue, but the liar calling etc., needs to end. We are brothers and anyone who supports legal firearms ownership is a friend of mine.

You would be drooling if you could have seen the crates I have of SKS rifles and being allowed to open any crate and see inside. I am envious of all the cool guns you can buy, and I cannot.



I was told the numbers from Ukraine were just shy of 36k units of one purchase, and maybe 4 others by various smaller importers at about 2 to 2.5k each circa 2008 to 2013. So we aren't that far off.

I'll even raise you to 50k..... what else, and how many?
 
I was told the numbers from Ukraine were just shy of 36k units of one purchase, and maybe 4 others by various smaller importers at about 2 to 2.5k each circa 2008 to 2013. So we aren't that far off.

I'll even raise you to 50k..... what else, and how many?

The other imports are more difficult to determine, you see the Russian ones weren’t as straight forward as the Ukrainian ones, and a lot went through Germany. I do know one purchase alone was around 80,000 SKS rifles but conditions varied greatly. I am not sure if other makers were included in that total. I do know the number to be in the “couple hundred thousand” but it’s very hard to determine an exact number.

Here’s another question that comes up, how many SKS rifles did the Soviets actually produce? This is an area that really interests me. I’ve heard all sorts of things up to 15 million, but tbh that number seems way too high. Chinese ones maybe, but I think Soviet numbers were much lower.
 
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If we were to say there are 100k on both sides of the fence, would you agree we both have adequate specimens to evaluate and research on both ends as equally valuable?
 
So....


If we were to say there are 100k on both sides of the fence, would you agree we both have adequate specimens to evaluate and research on both ends as equally valuable?

Yes, I think a lot of people were just messing around.

Canada and the USA has had many imports and there are oodles of specimens to study.

That being said, one could argue about the contents of the "batches." We have been getting some oddballs and as we have had a steady import since the US import ban, a lot more has turned up.

I think Boris was really jumping to conclusions when he made some big generalizations.

Would you agree?
 
Boris is his own man, I don't need to talk for him

In regards to messing around.... I get it, but reply #31 of the other thread shows a whole new level of ignorance if your picking up what I'm slapping down?

As far as the contents of batches etc. One 'could' argue that the entirety of our imports were hay-day and everything else is just scraping the bottom of the barrel, but I'm not going to do so. I will however point out the recent Westrifle 'modified' guns, and how 'oddballs' of that nature are a stain to put ot mildly. One could say, the longer they sit the more likely they been screwed with and/or found their way through even a small level inspection depot capable of .... whatever.
 
I think Boris was really jumping to conclusions when he made some big generalizations.

Please, I beg of you, prove me and my generalizations wrong.
Photographic evidence of all matching, all original, non refurb 1957-58 letter guns in hardwood stocks. I've eaten crow before.serve me up another helping.

The evidence is key.
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And now back to the topic at hand:


With the massive quantities of Soviet 45's that made it to the US, our base for evidentiary examination is just better suited for study.

Add to that the fact that US importers got the creme of the crop, and had no reasons to modify, hump, or refinish the 45's they received, the US market is the most ideal environment for examination, research.

The pre-ban US market was the epitomal capitalist environment. During that period, importers had virtually unfettered access to the best of what the Soviets had stored away decades prior.

Are importers in Canada hamstrung by regulations, restrictions, limits on importable quantities, or other legal red tape? From what I've read on this and various other Canadian sites and from Candaian members is US forums, it seems as if the Importers and distributors (and buyers) face various limitations and regulations that US importers did not encounter prior to the ban.


What many in the US and in Canada overlook is the fact that by the late 1980s , the Soviet Union was in social, political, and especially Economic collapse. They needed cash in the worst of ways. And the US gun market was itching (it's a perpetual yearning in the US) for everything.



You put that all together and it creates a perfect environment for capitalist doe-si-doe. All the reasons you'd need to get insanely massive, and seemingly endless mountains of crates on crates stuffed full of near pristine Soviet sks 45s overrunning the US warehouses.

It's a simple equation, really:


-Unfettered access for US importers and buyers
+ failed Soviet state and SSR'S bleeding for cash and literally spilling over with small arms surplus.
+ a firearms obsessed US public with a ceaseless and unquenchable thirst for more, more, more:
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= s-tons of Soviet 45s in the US.
 
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