The Freedom Ordnance FX-9 OWNERS thread.

Yes, as I said, useless for MY purposes.

PCC is a division in a competitive sport (USPSA and IPSC) where literally milliseconds decide the winner, for the person who said it doesn’t make a difference in the podium you are flat out wrong, I would NEVER compete with sub par equipment (no flared magwell for example), one botched reload at speed your entire match is over, this may include having spent thousands of dollars in travel costs and match fees to a major event. I personally compete in such competitions regularly against the best in the world, so yeah no magwell absolutely does make a difference in the podium.

Here I am holding a PCC rifle made by MBX at the 2017 USPSA National Championships held in St George Utah, an event I spent over $2,000 to attend compeating against the best in the world, note the size of the bolt on flared magwell.

So while you may have your purposes and enjoy the rifle, as I said for MY propose (high level competitive shooting) it is useless, something obviously not understood by some here, thus the explanation.

I know a lot of people in the Canadian competition circuit trying to use them for this division, that is where my comment stems from as we have PCC division in Canada and people are trying to move away from restricted AR-15 Pistol Caliber Carbine rifle platforms into non-restricted options such as this, I’m saying without the bolt on magwell it IS useless for that competitive purpose.

Note I did not say the rifle is useless, I quite like them and would consider buying one today if there was a proper aftermarket magwell available.

Those are some sweet looking guns.
You're hilarious, looks like you've got close to $5k into each of those rifles, why would someone who shoots at a level you do even consider an entry level toy like this? Oh that's right, just to dump on something not as good as what you've got.
Nothing anyone does to one of these will make it suitable for your needs.

Considering these have been out for such a short time, maybe once they've been in circulation a little longer some aftermarket will start to flow but for now I'd say if you want to dump your race guns you'll have to make your own super size magwell or keep using the expensive specialized rifle you already own.
Was your plan to buy a $1100 rifle and add the super magwell and sell your specialized rifles? Didn't think so.
 
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Yes, as I said, useless for MY purposes.

PCC is a division in a competitive sport (USPSA and IPSC) where literally milliseconds decide the winner, for the person who said it doesn’t make a difference in the podium you are flat out wrong, I would NEVER compete with sub par equipment (no flared magwell for example), one botched reload at speed your entire match is over, this may include having spent thousands of dollars in travel costs and match fees to a major event. I personally compete in such competitions regularly against the best in the world, so yeah no magwell absolutely does make a difference in the podium.

Here I am holding a PCC rifle made by MBX at the 2017 USPSA National Championships held in St George Utah, an event I spent over $2,000 to attend compeating against the best in the world, note the size of the bolt on flared magwell.

So while you may have your purposes and enjoy the rifle, as I said for MY propose (high level competitive shooting) it is useless, something obviously not understood by some here, thus the explanation.

I know a lot of people in the Canadian competition circuit trying to use them for this division, that is where my comment stems from as we have PCC division in Canada and people are trying to move away from restricted AR-15 Pistol Caliber Carbine rifle platforms into non-restricted options such as this, I’m saying without the bolt on magwell it IS useless for that competitive purpose.

Note I did not say the rifle is useless, I quite like them and would consider buying one today if there was a proper aftermarket magwell available.

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FYI - this is the “FX-9 Owners” thread. You can go criticize the FX-9 in one of the other ‘Bash the FX-9’ threads on CGN, thanks...
 
That’s a good question laker415 and one I plan to learn more about through personal experience but in the meamtime what I’ve found is that it is a pretty contentious issue.

On the one hand we have minimal gases from our 9mm pcc to make a muzzle break actually do anything so some say fughetaboutit. On the other hand you’ve got companies like MBX, JP and Lone Wolfe putting time and energy into designs that they claim do the job.

I guess we’ll see as guys try some out on the FX-9 but I suspect these entry level pccs aren’t going to show much in the way of results like the fine tuned comp guns would. My plan is to first play with my loads to see how light I can go with CONSISTANT results and then maybe fiddle with the spring and buffer ( in tiny increments ) to see if that contributes to faster follow ups.

I suspect that a few thousand rounds downrange of solid rapid fire double taps will be required before I’d even now the difference so Ima start there.

Here’s what others are saying on the subject :

https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/251812-pcc-9mm-muzzle-brake-that-works/
 
I see matador arms makes a 9mm brake threaded 1/2x28 but I can't seem to find one in-stock. Price is reasonable

Don’t waste your money on that brake it doesn’t work in my experience. A hydraulic buffer is where I would start first to reduce felt recoil.
 
That’s a good question laker415 and one I plan to learn more about through personal experience but in the meamtime what I’ve found is that it is a pretty contentious issue.

On the one hand we have minimal gases from our 9mm pcc to make a muzzle break actually do anything so some say fughetaboutit. On the other hand you’ve got companies like MBX, JP and Lone Wolfe putting time and energy into designs that they claim do the job.

I guess we’ll see as guys try some out on the FX-9 but I suspect these entry level pccs aren’t going to show much in the way of results like the fine tuned comp guns would. My plan is to first play with my loads to see how light I can go with CONSISTANT results and then maybe fiddle with the spring and buffer ( in tiny increments ) to see if that contributes to faster follow ups.

I suspect that a few thousand rounds downrange of solid rapid fire double taps will be required before I’d even now the difference so Ima start there.

Here’s what others are saying on the subject :

https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/251812-pcc-9mm-muzzle-brake-that-works/

I dont have a FX9 but I put a VG6 Precision brake on my Ruger PC9.I think it makes a tiny bit of difference in that the dot seems to stabilise better on target but nothing dramatic,but I may just be trying to convince myself of this.I dont think there is really enough pressure at the end of a carbine barrel from a 9mm para round to make a comp really work.Looks cool tho!
 
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That makes 500 rounds total through it with only 1 stovepipe total. All 500 round have been bottomshelf dirty american eagle/re manufactured range crap/steel winchester stuff
 
So what???? PCC has it is own rule book and, as a rifle and shotgun, is a Discipline, not a division.......

Just learn before you discuss something you have no idea about:

For information about the Divisions of the IPSC shooting disciplines,click on one of the links below:

Handgun Divisions
Rifle Divisions
Shotgun Divisions


You are wrong. World IPSC PCC Championship is to be held in Czech Republic 2020

I will be there but it won’t be with A FX9

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog...UevSgfsKsfn9GDulmGoxQJ3Nuq_rK--9re08vekrsK18s
 
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Are you using factory ammo Or reloads? Is it the PCC CMC or regular ar15 version? From what I'm hearing is only timinny is recommended by wolverine because of light primer strikes with other brands.

I'm using Blazer Brass 124 gr. FMJ. The trigger is the CMC Tactical AR15/10 Trigger group part #91501.
 
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