IPSC Ontario approved handguns list

JB said:
I do play IDPA when theres a match around here also play icore too.You might be right when it comes to the small pool of shooters (ones that get paid to shoot) but for the majority its a pray and spray game
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Look up the results for an event like the Eurasia Extreme Open. You'll see the top shooters are both accurate and fast. I'm definitely not in the camp that would alter the rules to deal with weekend blasters. I'd rather try to build my skills.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
What if Super-Major scored 5 points for all three zones? A, C, or D doesn't matter. Two holes on paper = 10 points.
I think it could be interesting.
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If you look at the accuracy of the top Open and Standard shooters - they don't loose that much points, so your margin is 3..4%, but at that PF you going to be much much slower. Going opposite direction like making A worth 10 points will make it moot too - it won't be the same balance between different power factors.
 
JB said:
Id like to see the scoring system changed so that accuracy counts more then speed
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Maybe you just need to change your sport. The way I look at it - only a few people been able to reach the limits IPSC puts you in. Don't think Canada has any, but quite few are working really hard to reach those limits and that's what sport is about.
 
mactroneng said:
Because if revolver decision is deleted I could only compete in open, that's why (unless I drop more money on guns, which I don't have). Do you really think that everyone shooting revolver division that has a gun that's a little too big deserves to compete in open if they aren't using optics and other performance upgrades?
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Following your logic, do you really think Formula 1 will change its rules because someone wanted to drive his 20 years old chevy car. Even if it had performance upgrades. Even if it makes total sense.

On a more serious note. If you already complaining about not been able to get a gun, then IPSC is likely not for you.
Cost of the BB course and even cost of a new gun is negligible compared to the cost of ammo, match fees, travel and other expenses.
 
" If you look at the accuracy of the top Open and Standard shooters - they don't loose that much points, so your margin is 3..4%, but at that PF you going to be much much slower. Going opposite direction like making A worth 10 points will make it moot too - it won't be the same balance between different power factors. "
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In all honesty; You're probably right.

And it would really suck to be an RO all day with everyone shooting comped Desert Eagles. LOL.
 
I don't Eugene I've seen some revo shooters who are massive size dudes, bigger than me, and that's before putting their rigs on.
But yes, it does take up space, given the way they assign slots and plan matches like the Worlds, you can only get so many people in, and they have to allow for Revo shooters. I don't really care about the history of the gun, it's a dead division and should be tossed simply on that alone. If it was occupied by a decent number of people that would be fine, but every year it gets smaller. And yes, PDO needs to go to, hopefully the data they get back this year will support tossing it. Stupid idea for a division.
 
euxx said:
On a more serious note. If you already complaining about not been able to get a gun, then IPSC is likely not for you.
Cost of the BB course and even cost of a new gun is negligible compared to the cost of ammo, match fees, travel and other expenses.
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That's what I'm getting out of this thread now. I thought it'd be something cool to learn & do but I was on the fence because I only have revolvers and it seems that nobody cares about them so why should I bother if thsts the way the sport is going. I'm not willing to buy a semi-auto because I don't really care for them (and money).
 
Slavex said:
I don't Eugene I've seen some revo shooters who are massive size dudes, bigger than me, and that's before putting their rigs on.
But yes, it does take up space, given the way they assign slots and plan matches like the Worlds, you can only get so many people in, and they have to allow for Revo shooters. I don't really care about the history of the gun, it's a dead division and should be tossed simply on that alone. If it was occupied by a decent number of people that would be fine, but every year it gets smaller. And yes, PDO needs to go to, hopefully the data they get back this year will support tossing it. Stupid idea for a division.
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I said most revolver shooters. Given you are about 3x of me, it all averages out and you still take more space then most. :)

As for slots - Canada don't allocate slots for Revolver, so your argument don't play there either. And "it gets smaller" argument is also within margin or error. 2019 Ontario Provincials has 5 Revolver registrations now, which is more then last year Nationals... USPSA Western States had 49 Revolver shooters - dedicated match.
We can easily get more participation with dedicated matches. Just need a few MDs to go for it.
 
mactroneng said:
That's what I'm getting out of this thread now. I thought it'd be something cool to learn & do but I was on the fence because I only have revolvers and it seems that nobody cares about them so why should I bother if thsts the way the sport is going. I'm not willing to buy a semi-auto because I don't really care for them (and money).
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I'm getting the impression that a lot of the serious revolver shooters are migrating to ICORE and PPC and SASS. It seems we just have a few diehards registering that way in IPSC, or maybe they want to be the big fish in a tiny pool or it's just the match that's open the weekend they can shoot. And because of the way divisions are structured, some wheelguns show up to be counted in Production, Production Optic, or even Open, and looking at the match statistics afterwards hides them. At this point you can almost always still register in Revolver but expect to be competing against too few others for any serious winner-recognition.

Up until a couple of years ago Aurora ran an annual revolver match, a regular IPSC match but with a prize pool for those who brought revolvers. Good times, that, and even as a regular semiauto competitor it's a chance to change it up and try shooting a match with a different gun.
 
Aroura had a match that if you shot a revolver in that match you had the chance to win a revolver in a draw.I think they had over 20 guys sign up but sad because they only where there for the chance to win the gun after that they went back to there semi
 
Slavex said:
I don't Eugene I've seen some revo shooters who are massive size dudes, bigger than me, and that's before putting their rigs on.
But yes, it does take up space, given the way they assign slots and plan matches like the Worlds, you can only get so many people in, and they have to allow for Revo shooters. I don't really care about the history of the gun, it's a dead division and should be tossed simply on that alone. If it was occupied by a decent number of people that would be fine, but every year it gets smaller. And yes, PDO needs to go to, hopefully the data they get back this year will support tossing it. Stupid idea for a division.
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Hey most of us in bc are pretty slim!

But I've basically stopped shooting revo as there is no one to play with. The PCC and other new division people will see the same.

I'm waiting to see if classic will become single stack vs 1911
 
magictalent said:
It is just like golf. A $50 set can finish 18 holes no problem.
A $15,000 will do the same.
But at the end we enjoy it. Expensive is not a must.
$400 norinco 1911 in 9 mm can go a long way with a trigger job.
If anyone wants to be at the top..... well the top price need to be paid.
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I kinda agree with you, but Norinco often provides inadequate reliability for IPSC matcher. I have a few Norinco, they all tend to have some issues that are minor nuisance for plinking but can be frustrated in a match.
 
JB said:
Id like to see the scoring system changed so that accuracy counts more then speed
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I thought this myth had died. IPSC is Accuracy at speed. It doesn't matter how fast you are if you're not getting hits. The score is literally your points, less penalties divided by your time. If there was any more emphasis on accuracy than what we have now it wouldn't be practical. The P in IPSC stands for practical. It's not practical to require more accuracy than we currently require.
 
euxx said:
Maybe you just need to change your sport. The way I look at it - only a few people been able to reach the limits IPSC puts you in. Don't think Canada has any, but quite few are working really hard to reach those limits and that's what sport is about.
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^^^^This
 
Looks like I missed the good'ol days at Aurora, now it's just old.... and no more gun giveaways now that the match chair is unemployed.

While there are big dudes in revo I do my best to counter that perception. I have seen big dudes in IPSC too, very few shooters in general are what I'd call "in shape".

I like shooting my revolver simply as I picked it up a LOT quicker than my semi, especially when I jumped to standard major. If I s*at the bed on a stage a quick trip to the range usually fixed it. My semi required a lot of work including a trip to TPC in Utah. I'm finally comfortable with shooting major 1 year later. I get why minor is so popular beside the cost.

A few of us are trying to keep IPSC revo alive. We do shoot ICORE. It's a very small but tight nit group and fits into our travel plans. Visit new places, shoot and hang out with fun people-what's not to like? Got new friends from all over the US and Australia.

And it's not like the skills aren't transferable.

I'll see over this year if there will be enough wheelguns at 2020 Nationals or else I'll use my semi. There is a very similar discussion on Eno's trying to keep revo alive in USPSA.
 
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