Antique status letter for pistol

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I am about to acquire an antique pistol, I noticed some people have am rcmp letter some don't and just sell according to the laws , I would like to get a letter so I have it with me , does anyone know how to go about getting one ? Proper process and fees?
I know its changed recently with the pistol only being allowed antique if if it was originally chambered in an antique cartridge and not allowed conversion.
Thanks
 
The less about our antiques ‘big brother’ knows, the longer we get to keep them!
Just keep selling as you pointed out ..... “according to the laws”
Of course thats only my opinion, and I am only one. :)
 
As I understand the process, the RCMP will collect all the information and register your gun and then pass it to a different department to see if it meets the criteria for antique status and de-register it and provide a letter stating what it is.
This probably isn't exactly right but I think is the gist of it.
Others here have been through the process numerous times.

In the black powder and antique forum there is a template someone made to write your own letter with a description of how it meets the criteria for antique status. I've made a few including one that was good enough for border services. They held a pistol I was importing for a day or two and sent it right on through.

It would be nice to have the FRT number but I'm satisfied with leaving the government out of it.
 
polskiogorki said:
Me too.. I didn't even look, mine is being sold without being a restricted, so I don't have to deregister, but want as much paperwork with it as I can get when i carry , and i will :)
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Before doing that, make sure it does meet the antique status, caliber/year/etc. Just to cover your 6!
 
bobdbldr said:
Before doing that, make sure it does meet the antique status, caliber/year/etc. Just to cover your 6!
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Omg no kidding, I've seen a few people advertise their .45 acp or 44 special "antique" pistols for sale recently and have seen them sell... I would be really bitter if I was the buyer and didnt realize the laws have changed, even if you have the antique letter they now need to be registered as restricted.
They can only be antique now by the caliber they were originally designed for , no modifications allowed
 
What caliber is yours if you don't mind me asking? I thought the new rule was just if your antique was originally say a .45 long colt and you changed it to a legal antique caliber then it is still restricted as the original was restricted, but if you say change a .455 webley to a .45 acp. that was ok. Am I wrong there? Not that it matters to me much, all mine are original and antique. The rules are a bit screwy.
 
polskiogorki said:
Omg no kidding, I've seen a few people advertise their .45 acp or 44 special "antique" pistols for sale recently and have seen them sell... I would be really bitter if I was the buyer and didnt realize the laws have changed, even if you have the antique letter they now need to be registered as restricted.
They can only be antique now by the caliber they were originally designed for , no modifications allowed
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Is this statement full of wrong? Where did you get this info stating people have to now register their antique pistols as restricted?
 
I'm actually not sure on that, the way the regulations are written it says ruger the gun is classified in its original caliber, so if serial number puts it as 45lc then it reverts to restricted status, I can't see the difference if its converted to a 45acp or 455.... but that's just my interpretation, I could be wrong :)

The one I'm picking up is 44 Russian
 
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polskiogorki said:
I'm actually not sure on that, the way the regulations are written it says ruger the gun is classified in its original caliber, so if serial number puts it as 45lc then it reverts to restricted status, I can't see the difference if its converted to a 45acp or 455.... but that's just my interpretation, I could be wrong :)
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I am sure the converted revolvers with the proper antique letter, before they changed the rules, are all still good to go as antiques.
 
Wally1966 said:
I am sure the converted revolvers with the proper antique letter, before they changed the rules, are all still good to go as antiques.
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Unfortunately this is incorrect, this new change was put through the same time as the cz/ swiss arms,,, rcmp will no longer look at these as antique even if previously given an antique letter , in order for your antique pistol to be classified as an antique it had to have been manufactured in the antique caliber.
I will try to find the changes , I went on a big Google search , I should have saved it when I was on the page.
 
polskiogorki said:
Unfortunately this is incorrect, this new change was put through the same time as the cz/ swiss arms,,, rcmp will no longer look at these as antique even if previously given an antique letter.
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First I have heard of this. I spoke to the CFO shortly after they stopped giving antique letters for the converted colts. I was assured that anything previous, given an antique letter, was good to go, and could not be registered as restricted. So on the CFO's advice, I purchased one. ( with antique letter ). And apparently I am good to go according to the CFO.
If you have had a different experience, I would be glad to read about it.
 
Handguns

6 A handgun manufactured before 1898 that is capable of discharging only rim-fire cartridges, other than 22 Calibre Short, 22 Calibre Long or 22 Calibre Long Rifle cartridges.


7 A handgun manufactured before 1898 that is capable of discharging centre-fire cartridges, other than a handgun designed or adapted to discharge 32 Short Colt, 32 Long Colt, 32 Smith and Wesson, 32 Smith and Wesson Long, 32-20 Winchester, 38 Smith and Wesson, 38 Short Colt, 38 Long Colt, 38-40 Winchester, 44-40 Winchester, or 45 Colt cartridges.

( What am I missing )? And why won't the CFO register my 44 special? How bizarre!
 
Wally1966 said:
Handguns

6 A handgun manufactured before 1898 that is capable of discharging only rim-fire cartridges, other than 22 Calibre Short, 22 Calibre Long or 22 Calibre Long Rifle cartridges.


7 A handgun manufactured before 1898 that is capable of discharging centre-fire cartridges, other than a handgun designed…... OR ADAPTED..... to discharge 32 Short Colt, 32 Long Colt, 32 Smith and Wesson, 32 Smith and Wesson Long, 32-20 Winchester, 38 Smith and Wesson, 38 Short Colt, 38 Long Colt, 38-40 Winchester, 44-40 Winchester, or 45 Colt cartridges.

( What am I missing )? And why won't the CFO register my 44 special? How bizarre!
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Here You go.
 
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