Identify these poop, no really.

45ACPKING said:
I've always understood "Brown" bears to a subspecies native to alaska/russia and lattitudes north of that..... inbetween the polar bears and grizzly bears.
That said, I am far from any kind of bear expert but as far as I know there are no "Brown" bears in BC. The subspecies I mean because of course thier are brown colored black bears everywhere in canada.
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Brown is the species with Grizzly and Kodiak as the sub-species. Grizzly generally defined as inland bears, Kodiak as being from the Kodiak Island lineage. Grizzly are the smallest of the Brown Bears, Kodiak are the largest.
 
Luckybeer said:
Grizzlies do occasionally make it to the island.. but you are right to say they do not live there, usually. It could be Grizzly or it could be black bear. The Black bears on the Island are so big that they are considered a subspecies. "Vancouver Island Black Bear"
They put those ontario bear to shame...lol
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some areas of Ontario produce large Black bears... some not so much ... same with white tail ..... but I would imagine with the availability of food (carrion from the ocean etc) your island bears must get pretty big and take the prize for size.
 
It's pretty straight forward:

If it contains berries, it's from a black bear.

If it contains shredded parts of a safety whistle and smells like
pepper spray, it's from a grizzly...:)
 
JACKSMYDOG said:
Brown is the species with Grizzly and Kodiak as the sub-species. Grizzly generally defined as inland bears, Kodiak as being from the Kodiak Island lineage. Grizzly are the smallest of the Brown Bears, Kodiak are the largest.
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I've just never heard of any reference of "brown bears" in our wildlife act, hunting regs or general discussions about BC bears in general.
We have Grizzly, Black Bear and kermode (spirit) bears which are also black bears. Point being, unless the bear floated down from the alaska panhandle , it could not be a "brown bear". Highly likely for a Grizzly Bear from the mainland coast to island hop it's way from the mainland to the big island. The deer and cougars do it when they are hungry , mating or threatened as well.
 
Luckybeer said:
The Black bears on the Island are so big that they are considered a subspecies. "Vancouver Island Black Bear"
They put those ontario bear to shame...lol
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Check the B&C record book to see how many black bears from Vancouver Island are in there.
The subspecies designation was spearheaded by Shockey because even the big bears there have smallish skulls. They weren't given the subspecies designation because of their size. Check out black bears from North Carolina if you want size.

And back on topic, I've seen raccoon crap that looks exactly like that, although generally not that much unless it's in a barn or somewhere they're spending the winter.
 
45ACPKING said:
I've always understood "Brown" bears to a subspecies native to alaska/russia and lattitudes north of that..... inbetween the polar bears and grizzly bears.
That said, I am far from any kind of bear expert but as far as I know there are no "Brown" bears in BC. The subspecies I mean because of course thier are brown colored black bears everywhere in canada.
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JACKSMYDOG said:
Brown is the species with Grizzly and Kodiak as the sub-species. Grizzly generally defined as inland bears, Kodiak as being from the Kodiak Island lineage. Grizzly are the smallest of the Brown Bears, Kodiak are the largest.
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ursus arctos is what link all of them ...
 
You guys are hilarious, I will assume it's a big a** bear, hopefully not a grizzle. Now, just need to find the big guy.

Big bore dinosaur said:
Looks like a heavey mushroom diet, color is right..

Good size.
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Mushroom diet would make sense, thanks for that.

I assumed not a grizzle because it was on the West Coast of the Island, I would think if Grizzlies do make it over from the mainland, they won't venture so far, or would they?

Is 270WSM enough? Only spot and stalk here, my 270wsm is setup for 500yd plus.
 
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45ACPKING said:
I've just never heard of any reference of "brown bears" in our wildlife act, hunting regs or general discussions about BC bears in general.
We have Grizzly, Black Bear and kermode (spirit) bears which are also black bears. Point being, unless the bear floated down from the alaska panhandle , it could not be a "brown bear". Highly likely for a Grizzly Bear from the mainland coast to island hop it's way from the mainland to the big island. The deer and cougars do it when they are hungry , mating or threatened as well.
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Brown Bears are common all along the Pacific Coast from California to Alaska, I find it odd Canada has no mention of them. I am guessing it is mostly a variance in terminology more than in species.
 
JACKSMYDOG said:
Brown Bears are common all along the Pacific Coast from California to Alaska, I find it odd Canada has no mention of them. I am guessing it is mostly a variance in terminology more than in species.
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We call them Grizzlies. Boone and Crockett separate them by geography, Still genetically the same bear .

Grizz
 
JACKSMYDOG said:
Brown Bears are common all along the Pacific Coast from California to Alaska, I find it odd Canada has no mention of them. I am guessing it is mostly a variance in terminology more than in species.
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ya I'm no expert hehehe and wasn't trying to debate if that is how it came across.
I just never heard or read them being refered to as brown bears here in BC is all.
 
i do not know when your bears come out of hibernation but i do know that all bears gorge themselves with dry leaves the last thing in the fall ....this makes a dry annal plug in the bowel so thy do not #### during hibernation ant lose valuable miosture from the body its the first thing out in the spring ....notice how it even looks like dry leaves....so now you know thi is no joke ask an old trapper/hunter there you go
 
coyoteshooter said:
i do not know when your bears come out of hibernation but i do know that all bears gorge themselves with dry leaves the last thing in the fall ....this makes a dry annal plug in the bowel so thy do not #### during hibernation ant lose valuable miosture from the body its the first thing out in the spring ....notice how it even looks like dry leaves....so now you know thi is no joke ask an old trapper/hunter there you go
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Here on southern Vancouver Island I don't know if they even go into hibernation... It really never gets that cold like the rest of Canada.
 
JACKSMYDOG said:
I didn't see anything in that article referencing Brown vs Grizzly.

And nothing popped out searching Johnston Straights Grizzlys vs Browns either.

Maybe you could provide reference for me.
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Start of third para "Gwa’sala-‘Nakwaxda’xw First Nations Reserve in 2001 and one in the Sayward Valley in 2006, grizzly bears continue to be sighted in the North Island area. “To date, there is no evidence to support an established population of grizzly bears on Vancouver Island”(pers. comm. Tony Hamilton, 2009).

But, I didn’t have enough tryptophan in my blood stream earlier today so I was a little foggy.
If it looks like bear scatt, smells like bear scatt, it must be bear scatt, just don’t eat it.
It might contain mushrooms of questionable variety.

And if you are looking for the official results about GB sightings on Northern Vancouver Island you can contact the Band Office in Port Hardy and ask them for more info or the CO's in Campbell River who hauled the 3 year old down to Nanaimo for the necropsy results.

You will find at least one of those bears died of a .303 British round at close range.

Rob
 
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