rifles in 6.5 Creedmore?

[dgradinaru]

There has never been a hunting cartridge more exaggerated in its ability then the 6.5 creedmoor.

The funny part is that the larger 6.5x55 swede was considered a 300-400 yard hunting rifle by many before the creedmoor. All of a sudden the newer and smaller cartridge is a 1000 yard hunting rifle Double standard I guess.

 

[SuperCub]

No question those have been successful, even with Remingtons bungling

The 223 was a guaranteed success due to the 5.56

The 22-250 has been very popular, although the 1-14 barrels on so many of them limit bullet selection to small bullets that go fast and then fizzle.

And I think the 7-08 has been a success despite Remington.

The 260 Rem is a great cartridge, it should have been at least as popular as the .243 Win, but...Remington.

You're right about Remington not paying attention to consumer demand. I have a fast twist 22-250 that I had to have built cuz they refuse to see the market. Even the old 35Whelen was only offered in a 14" twist bbl when there was demand for a faster twist.

The 6.5CM filled in where Remington would not.

 

[Tokay444]

See that's the part I don't get. I can understand efficient case,etc, but why push it to what many would consider "beyond its limit? Just buy a 6.5x55 or a 264 WM.

I like the 308 because it's a nice shooting round and efficient. I don't try to load it to 30-06 velocities or more. If I want that, I'll use a 30-06 or 300 WinMag.
Same goes for 223. If I need more speed, I'll just use a 22-250.

Some people just don't want to go to a long action. With my Nucleus, I can swap barrels and bolt faces and easily shoot .223, 308/6.5CM, and 6.5SAUM in the same gun.

 

[stubblejumper]

just punched it up and Quickload says 27-28 fps per inch with H4350 / RL26

The 2019 update to the article you linked to shows 23 fps per inch average from 26" to 20" across the six differnt loads tested

The bottom line, is that you won't make 3000fps with a 147gr bullet, without exceeding the 62,000psi pressure standard for the 6.5CM, by a considerable margin.

 

[Ranger Dave]

6.5CM would make a fantastic whitetail deer round IMO. Its not overkill but its not too weak either.

 

[Tokay444]

The bottom line, is that you won't make 3000fps with a 147gr bullet, without exceeding the 62,000psi pressure standard for the 6.5CM, by a considerable margin.

Not even so much as a flat primer.

 

[Gatehouse]

You're right about Remington not paying attention to consumer demand. I have a fast twist 22-250 that I had to have built cuz they refuse to see the market. Even the old 35Whelen was only offered in a 14" twist bbl when there was demand for a faster twist.

The 6.5CM filled in where Remington would not.

I think we will see the 22-250 get displaced by the 22 CM in the years to come. 22-250 has been around for decades and has been popular so it won't be immediate, but shooters have more information now and are knowledgeable enough to see why pushing 50gr bullets fast in a 1-14 twist is a joke when you can have heavier, more aerodynamic bullets doing a much better job.

Years ago, I used to have a 22-250 AI 1-14. it was very accurate and could make little bullets go fast but it didn't take me long to realize it's limitations and get rid of it. it's also the last "Wildcat/AI" chambered rifle I ever owned as it became apparent that wildcats are mostly pointless unless you just want something different.

 

[Buckmastr]

For a hunting rifle I'd take fast over higher bc and slow.
Snipering, gong ringing and paper punching is where these high bc bullets have an advantage. And this is where the marketers show up. And all the tall tales...
Hunting and long range shooting seem to get confused as requiring similar equipment.

 

[Tokay444]

For a hunting rifle I'd take fast over higher bc and slow.
Snipering, gong ringing and paper punching is where these high bc bullets have an advantage. And this is where the marketers show up. And all the tall tales...
Hunting and long range shooting seem to get confused as requiring similar equipment.

Thankfully, you can have BOTH!

 

[stubblejumper]

Not even so much as a flat primer.

Depending on the primer, that isn't always proof that the pressure isn't excessive, especially if the cases have smaller flash holes.

 

[Tokay444]

Depending on the primer, that isn't always proof that the pressure isn't excessive, especially if the cases have smaller flash holes.

Alpha Brass, large rifle primer BR2s, and large flash hole.

 

[remington jim]

Alpha Brass, large rifle primer BR2s, and large flash hole.

Whats the EXACT load i will try it in my 6.5 CM 26 " and see what my rifle gets for FPS ? RJ

 

[Gatehouse]

Thankfully, you can have BOTH!

Not if you have a 1-14 22-250

 

[Buckmastr]

Not if you have a 1-14 22-250

A creedmoor owner would tell you it shoots 90 gr Bergers at 4000 fps. To 1000 yrds. For moose.

 

[madashell]

I wish Remington would get on the ball a little more 700 6.5cm models.

 

[Hitzy]

6.5CM would make a fantastic whitetail deer round IMO. Its not overkill but its not too weak either.

6.5x55 has been filling freezers for 100 years before the 6.5cm was even a thought.
The 6mmCM makes the most sense to me out of all the CM cartridges, target, varmint, whitetails...covers them all very well.

 

[remington jim]

6.5x55 has been filling freezers for 100 years before the 6.5cm was even a thought.
The 6mmCM makes the most sense to me out of all the CM cartridges, target, varmint, whitetails...covers them all very well.

BUT not enough Bullet for Bigger animals such as Moose Elk etc Need the 6.5 for them ! jmo RJ

 

[Gatehouse]

A creedmoor owner would tell you it shoots 90 gr Bergers at 4000 fps. To 1000 yrds. For moose.

Sounds more like a Weatherby thing.

 

[Tokay444]

Whats the EXACT load i will try it in my 6.5 CM 26 " and see what my rifle gets for FPS ? RJ

Alpha LRP
CCI BR2
48.5gr RL26 (I wouldn’t start here. I worked my way up over multiple trips.)
147gr ELD-M seated to 2.9” COAL

 

[remington jim]

Alpha LRP
CCI BR2
48.5gr RL26 (I wouldn’t start here. I worked my way up over multiple trips.)
147gr ELD-M seated to 2.9” COAL

OK i just bought a 100 Alpha LP Brass - So i'm set ! RJ