Well then I agree with you, it is the perfect rifle for the task!
Small, light, black bear and deer carbine?
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Well then I agree with you, it is the perfect rifle for the task!
Brutus
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Double yup. Had this one a spell, but the magazine weren't friendly to loads using 300+ gr cast boolits. Too dang short along with the fact that the action has no exposed cocking knob on the striker to enable the shooter to silently ####/de-#### the rifle when huntin'. Neat rifles though, none the less.
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Even with lever guns it can be hard to locate a rifle or carbine that will reliably feed 300 grain plus hard cast as a repeater through the magazine.
Only one that comes to mind in 44 magnum is Winchester M94.
I guess very few on here have experienced a Remington 600 the handiest little rifle I've ever owned. I have a .222 and a .308 they are easy carrying and very accurate for the short barrel. I missed a chance here locally on one in .35 Remington. Still looking in fact, even a barreled action!
BigUglyMan
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Yeah, I don't know why the conversation didn't end when this was suggested. It really is the ultimate woods loafing rifle.
John Wesley Hardin
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Winchester,Rossi , or Chiappa trapper in 357 ,44, or 45 colt would be my recommendation
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- Southern Vancouver Island
That be true alright, but I've used most of my rifles as single shots when hunting & only had a couple of rounds of proper length for the mag as back up on certain hunts.
canadaman30
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Ruger Mini30
Big bore dinosaur
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- NORT OF COW.TOWN.EH
Dont forget the 454 cassull, poor man's pop gun.
For the price the chiappa M92, gets my vote. SECOND to the big horn armory of coarse, 500 sw
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
A 94 is has the correct geometric conformation that is necessary for a rifle to carried conveniently by human beings, but there are down sides to the design which can be avoided with the choice of a small bolt gun. The first is fragility, the tang is particularly weak; if the butt stock takes a sever impact form the side, and the tang bent, it might pinch the hammer and prevent the rifle from firing. The magazine tube of the 94 is subject to denting, which effectively ends the repeating function of the rifle. The sights should be upgraded to a rear aperture and a front post, but that is true of many rifles, including the CZ-527, that come with factory irons. The bore of the 94 must be cleaned from the muzzle if a cleaning rod is used, although a pull through can be managed from the breech. Its not a huge deal to remove the lever and bolt, although it probably should be avoided in the field, but further take down for detailed cleaning, should you drop the piece in a shallow pond with 2' of loon #### on the bottom, is intimidating in anything but a pure white clean room so that any of the itty bitty pieces that tend to fall out of these things during disassembly can actually be found. Oops, I might have been thinking about the 336 Marlin for the easy bolt removal, I seem to recall the 94 has a cross pin that has to be tapped out form the opposite side of the receiver, which if required for the actual bolt removal, its back to the clean room.
By contrast, the CZ-527 can be carried nearly as conveniently. The 5 round magazines are small and flat, can be quickly inserted or removed from the rifle, and can be carried conveniently in the pocket. While a 94 has a greater magazine capacity, with a magazine change a 527 could fire 10 rounds more quickly than a 94, but the advantage if you can call it that, is irrelevant for the intended purpose the rifle is carried for. What is relevant is having to cycle 7 rounds of .30/30 through the action in order to unload the rifle before putting it in the truck, and charging through the loading port, one round at a time to get the rifle loaded again. The 5 round magazine of the CZ-527 is easily and quickly seated and unseated when the rifle needs to be loaded or unloaded when motorized transportation is part of the equation.
The CZ-527's bolt is easily stripped for cleaning without tools, simply pulling the bolt handle clear of the bolt body allows it to come apart. The bore can be conveniently cleaned from the breach. Spare magazines are expensive at about $70/ea, but it doesn't hurt so much if you buy one a year; I'm up to 5 for my .223, but in all honesty 3 would probably be enough for the .30 caliber version. I'd likely have one in the rifle loaded with big game ammo, a spare in my pocket loaded likewise, and the third would be loaded with small game loads, which would be identified by a different style of bullet, probably cast.
Guys that have carried 94s for decades without any issue will probably suggest that I'm full of ####. That's okay, everyone should be allowed to carry what he likes, and the 94 carries easier than almost any other rifle I can think of. Just if you're thinking of a niche rifle for a truck gun or a wilderness canoe trip, understand that there are other logical options.
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- trenton, ont
I carry a Rossi Ranch hand in .357 with a boyd's stock when I'm out checking cameras and deer feeders. Light and short....
