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What’s going on with these? I just bought a new gun and had to make room for it so I was looking to sell this one. Not looking to make any money on it, just to get back what I paid but one week on the EE and nothing.

I hear these will be worth a lot in the states so how do I go about exporting this rifle? It has to be in Canada for 5 years before it can be exported?
 
Yes big money in the US, I have a standing order on mine. But the first batch has only been in Canada for two years and the recent ones less than six months, must be here 5 years before they can be exported to the USA.
 
Yes big money in the US, I have a standing order on mine. But the first batch has only been in Canada for two years and the recent ones less than six months, must be here 5 years before they can be exported to the USA.

Are you sure about this? If true it would mean any of the SVT 40 Bulgarian light refurbs would be OK for export to the US.

milsurpo
 
Are you sure about this? If true it would mean any of the SVT 40 Bulgarian light refurbs would be OK for export to the US.

milsurpo

Now that would be big money just based on the volume alone. As I understand it, there is some law preventing the import of military rifles into the US of which the SVT40 and even Mosin would fall under. I don’t know if it’s true. Just something I read on here.
 
No Russian semi-autos (SVT/SKS) are exportable to the USA, not matter their origins. Bill Clinton made sure of that when he signed a trade accord with Russia when he was President. Russian Bolt Actions are OK for export after 5 years.
 
Yes big money in the US, I have a standing order on mine. But the first batch has only been in Canada for two years and the recent ones less than six months, must be here 5 years before they can be exported to the USA.

So what is the burden of proof that you have to provide.
 
US BATF require a 5 years letter stating the date of import. Do not try to fake it the BATF knows when these came out of Europe.
 
Yes big money in the US, I have a standing order on mine. But the first batch has only been in Canada for two years and the recent ones less than six months, must be here 5 years before they can be exported to the USA.

Another batch of these came in? How many?
 
Yes big money in the US, I have a standing order on mine. But the first batch has only been in Canada for two years and the recent ones less than six months, must be here 5 years before they can be exported to the USA.

How can you proove the 5 years?
 
How can you prove the 5 years?

Bill of sale, Statement by original importer, End User Certificate, etc....
 
So you can't export them?

In my opinion and from experience of several other businesses and collectors that tried to use "5 year cooling period" on other items - not possible from practical point of view. Though law (as I understand it) says it's possible, ATF simply rejects.
Actually these days there's another additional problem - you can't get Chinese and Soviet/Russian stuff in any direction across the US border. That is on top of previous "approved list" that did not include SVTs, SKSs, but had MNs. It's so messed up, I can't even describe. I have a rifle, collectible MN91/30 in US that I bought in Sep 2018, and can't get it across the border.
 
It's interesting the difference in the markets Canada vs the US. These have a hard time selling at $895 right now and never got to the $2000 mark. The only special thing is the bayonet.
One from Canada sold for $415 USD in Jan and another on eBay on Aug 27 for $332.90 So I guess someone is parting them out.
 
It's interesting the difference in the markets Canada vs the US. These have a hard time selling at $895 right now and never got to the $2000 mark. The only special thing is the bayonet.
One from Canada sold for $415 USD in Jan and another on eBay on Aug 27 for $332.90 So I guess someone is parting them out.

Ultimately it is more a matter of amount of collectors interested.

It was a trials rifle, which wasn't used for very long. The only people who are going to be interested are serious collectors. In Canada there is less serious collectors than the US (makes sense population wise), and those guys have their fill due to how many are imported. For pretty much everyone else, its just a M91/30 with a bayonet attached to it, which isn't really something people are willing to pay a 600+$ premium for.

It does make me happy though as at least now it might make these people who just seek to buy and flip every milsurp that comes into stores immediately think twice.
 
The only special thing is the bayonet.

In addition to the bayonet these rifles are very original- so-called light refurbs. Mainly original parts. There aren't many of those kicking around up here. However, Mosin collectors would know that immediately prior to this batch arriving you could buy an excellent, original 91/30 on the EE for around $500.00. They should have been worth more but, as Eaglelord points out, there are a finite number of serious Mosin collectors here in Canada. As a Mosin collector I did buy one of these attached bayonet versions from Tradex and am happy with it. As a collector I also bought it to keep not to flip. I expect that if I go to sell it in 10 or 15 years I'll likely get my money back on it and that's good enough for me.

milsurpo
 
You can't sell receivers on eBay. So your parted out gun analogy in USD is like selling half a Car on kijiji or Auto Trader by cutting it in half with a chainsaw...

It's interesting the difference in the markets Canada vs the US. These have a hard time selling at $895 right now and never got to the $2000 mark. The only special thing is the bayonet.
One from Canada sold for $415 USD in Jan and another on eBay on Aug 27 for $332.90 So I guess someone is parting them out.
 
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