Forester1986
Member
Exactly...why does it seem like such a far reaching concept that people would not fight for their civil liberties? There is absolutely nothing wrong with drawing a line in the sand.
Trudeau's Gun Ban and Buy Back
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Exactly...why does it seem like such a far reaching concept that people would not fight for their civil liberties? There is absolutely nothing wrong with drawing a line in the sand.
deadlydelta
CGN Regular
I disagree with you Tarrantula.
If the average canadian understood why we like guns as a hobby then they wouldn't be so against guns.
This whole god given right and against tyrannical government
do or die point of view only hurts the gun industry.
deadlydelta
CGN Regular
Is that fear i hear in your voice? Lol
It's the exact reason also why the CCFR hurts the gun community more than helps. I took a no guns friend to Taccom and he was off put by a lot of the pushy American 2A kind of slogans, etc. We can all sit here and jerk each other off over extreme view points, but the truth is that deadlydelta is right. It's a hobby and a bit of a lifestyle if you're big into hunting or competitive shooting. It needs to be presented as such to the masses or else you're gonna scare them right into the anti gun agendas arms. Especially with the whole "come and take it" attitude. We all know most people saying it, won't do a thing, it just serves as a negative talking point on our community. Some of you really need to look outside your bubbles.
Armed Hippie
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- Calgary
No it wouldn’t, the same misconception would exist. Scary looking guns = rampages and crime. That misconception will never change among the anti-gunners.
Defence against tyranny is a very valid reason to retain arms. If I was a politician with sinister intent I would first ensure that resistance was minimal and impossible (gun ban).
But hey, if you don’t value your arms, I actually encourage you to hand them in or sell them to someone who does. The less rats we have in our community the stronger we’ll be.
Chumlee Bumsnag
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- BC
Well...considering the Liberals didn't get a majority or the popular vote, I still should get a pistol.
Regardless of any election outcome, if you have gone thru the required steps to own and acquire a restricted firearm you have every right to purchase a pistol if that's what you want.
https://twitter.com/ABDanielleSmith/status/1186731462529294336
As of 2 hours ago it's up to over 157,000
I recently came back to cgn a few weeks ago when the whole gun ban was talked about more. Who knows what the future holds or if this will even happen. I’ve seen a lot of good comments here but also a lot of nonsense. All we can do is continue to support the cause and hope for the best.
Armed Hippie
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- Calgary
“Hoping” is a flattering alternative to its actual meaning which is “sitting on your couch and doing nothing”
I really hope this is the case, but I worry that the NDP will be for Trudeau's firearm policies.
Thirty-30
Member
- Location
- Yellowknife, NWT
What bothers me is all of the people screaming they'll shoot folks, etc. I've been seeing more of it than I care to.
People fail to realize that this could actually topple the liberal gov't played right.
Only one thing matters to politics, really, no matter the stripe and color: Cost.
When and if a buyback is announced, fight to drive up prices as far as possible.
Make it as non-palatable as possible to the people trying to get concessions from the liberals.
"Wait, your 250 million gun buyback would cost... 1 billion? WHAT BOUT THE ENVIRONMENT!"
Then polite non-compliance.
"Oh, I forgot to surrender it, just send the kind folks to come and get it."
Drive up the costs even more to get them. As the dollar figures go up, especially in a minority government, political will goes down.
it's threefold really.... but's all key on one thing:
1 - Keeping the 'hearts and minds' of Canadian Citizens.
All this blurr bla bla I'm a shoot LEO when they come for my AR-15 blee bloo blop does us *NO* favors.
We keep the hearts and minds of the rest of Canada and part of that is looking like what we are -- the most law abiding group of people in the country.
2 - Call the Libs on their #### with 'underestimated' costs of a buyback or confiscation program. Keep driving the costs up.
3 - Peaceful noncompliance if it comes to that to keep driving costs up *MORE*
None of this can happen without 1, and folks seem so quick to beak off and threaten and it does us not one favor.
We can win this pretty handily by beating them at their own game and possibly taking their gov't with it.
As soon as the average joe can pass us off as a 'eh, bunch of crazy loons' it's over.
Remember that.
People fail to realize that this could actually topple the liberal gov't played right.
Only one thing matters to politics, really, no matter the stripe and color: Cost.
When and if a buyback is announced, fight to drive up prices as far as possible.
Make it as non-palatable as possible to the people trying to get concessions from the liberals.
"Wait, your 250 million gun buyback would cost... 1 billion? WHAT BOUT THE ENVIRONMENT!"
Then polite non-compliance.
"Oh, I forgot to surrender it, just send the kind folks to come and get it."
Drive up the costs even more to get them. As the dollar figures go up, especially in a minority government, political will goes down.
it's threefold really.... but's all key on one thing:
1 - Keeping the 'hearts and minds' of Canadian Citizens.
All this blurr bla bla I'm a shoot LEO when they come for my AR-15 blee bloo blop does us *NO* favors.
We keep the hearts and minds of the rest of Canada and part of that is looking like what we are -- the most law abiding group of people in the country.
2 - Call the Libs on their #### with 'underestimated' costs of a buyback or confiscation program. Keep driving the costs up.
3 - Peaceful noncompliance if it comes to that to keep driving costs up *MORE*
None of this can happen without 1, and folks seem so quick to beak off and threaten and it does us not one favor.
We can win this pretty handily by beating them at their own game and possibly taking their gov't with it.
As soon as the average joe can pass us off as a 'eh, bunch of crazy loons' it's over.
Remember that.
I guess the answer is to stay home and hand them a majority next time. Is that it?
Sylvertiger
CGN Regular
Wow! That is crazy! Especially considering how well (or should I say poorly) Freedom Conservative Party of Alberta did. I wonder what might happen now with this petition!
Looks like Kenny and Moe are giving the part time drama teacher one last shot to level out the equalization plan before a referendum.
IMO, it's all smoke and mirrors considering we are heading into a very severe economic crisis and Canada votes for this:
(not kidding)
The pain that is coming our way will be Biblical.
kodiakjack
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I live in Ontario, and I still joined. Trudeau needs to see the mess he’s made.
Over 170k members now
Bobbum Man
Regular
The way I see it, if they want them they will have to take them. I will give no resistance but I will not just hand them over wrapped in a pretty little bow. If they are going to rob me of my legally obtained possessions, then that's what it will be. Either they smash through the vault to get them, or force me to open up. Nothing more than an armed robbery, committed by good folks with badges just doing the jobs they are assigned.
Turdope coming in person, or will 5 RCMP die for every AR15 stolen from their legal owner?
Work for the man, die for the man.
kodiakjack
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If there’s going to be a wexit, (and if digging a trench around Toronto and pushing it out into the lake isn’t an option) then I propose the following:
The new nation is going to need economic and ecological diversity. What if the eastern border was moved from Manitoba to a line that followed the Grand River in Ontario from Lake Erie up to it’s head waters, then up along the west shore of lake Simcoe, then straight north to intersect the Ontario Quebec border?
The vast majority of voters in this area are conservative.
This move would give the new nation access to three Great Lakes for shipping and fisheries. It would give the new nation access to some of the richest fruit and vegetable agricultural in the world. Manufacturing and assembly plants abound. Not to mention, several massive refineries just itching to turn western oil into pipeline profits...
In short, what I’m saying is, PLEASE TAKE ME WITH YOU!
The new nation is going to need economic and ecological diversity. What if the eastern border was moved from Manitoba to a line that followed the Grand River in Ontario from Lake Erie up to it’s head waters, then up along the west shore of lake Simcoe, then straight north to intersect the Ontario Quebec border?
The vast majority of voters in this area are conservative.
This move would give the new nation access to three Great Lakes for shipping and fisheries. It would give the new nation access to some of the richest fruit and vegetable agricultural in the world. Manufacturing and assembly plants abound. Not to mention, several massive refineries just itching to turn western oil into pipeline profits...
In short, what I’m saying is, PLEASE TAKE ME WITH YOU!
Bobbum Man
Regular
Huh?
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