Budget 9mm?

My advice is Grab a Glock 17 or 19 or a used CZ 75 or a CZ shadow. if you want to go cheap then as someone else said try the Norinco copy of the CZ75. as for the Turkish pistols no thank you . or a S&W M&P . your choice. see what feels good in your hand.
 
Ok, may be a dumb question, but why the hate on Turkish pistols?
My friend owns a Canik TP9SA, and that pistol runs all day long, chews down any round you throw at it, is economical, and tbh, every bit as reliable as the Glock I inherited.
 
Another vote for the canik..a great value pistol with better than average build quality...range kit included...
 
A good friend of mine has a Norinco Np 22 (a SiG clone) and it has served him very well. If you don't mind buying used I do really like my Star Super B even though spare mags are a bit of a pain to find. On the other hand if you aren't fully set on 9mm then a surplus TT33 or variant is a very affordable option, reliable with plentiful and cheap ammo.
 
So to recap, you want cheap, but don't want junk and don't care for the Turkish guns?... Then everyone immediately chimes in with their favourite Chinese.. Lol!

Not sure how to say, other than if you want some advice you might want to hear what they say about the Turkish guns. IMO, spending $500 (for example) will get you far more gun buying Turkish vs. Italian or U.S. made. Caniks are very well regarded. Don't have one but just about bought one based on everything I could read about them. Bought a Sarsilmaz; also a Turkish gun. The factory has been around for about 130 years, and they supply a large number of military guns. Very happy with mine. I bought a B6C. Stainless barrel, highly polished feed ramp, and fit together quite well.

I also hear very good things about the Girsans.

Norinco guns can be a good value, but some are decidedly lower quality than others. Norinco/Dominion Arms actually encompasses all the different factories that make guns in China, so you might want to research individual guns. The 1911 is decent; a little rough but an alright performer. Also have a Colt woodsman copy, which was one of the all time bargains of the century. Has a bit of a light strike, but then again I hear that is common for the original Colts, so how's that for a clone! Fixed that problem just by using CCI/Blazer ammo. The NZ 85 B is a really nice gun for the money as well. Some people can pick minor cosmetic flaws on them, but mine operates very well. Doesn't really like the very large meplat bullets though. To be fair, a lot of semis don't, and I didn't try modifying the feed angle, either. Also had a Tokarev copy. It was alright, but had a very heavy trigger, and not a very "nice" gun.
 
I had a Canick, and it was a nice gun, but I have a Jericho steel 941 S that is a super nice gun for the same amount of money, under 600.oo with range kit.
But at the moment I don't see any new in stock, but have been a couple on the EE.
Those Star super B where a great gun at 300.oo .
I can't comment on the S-W , other than the SD40VE, that would be good for a carry, but cheap. gun, but as a target gun , too light. But cheap ( too cheap)
 
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So to recap, you want cheap, but don't want junk and don't care for the Turkish guns?... Then everyone immediately chimes in with their favourite Chinese.. Lol!

Not sure how to say, other than if you want some advice you might want to hear what they say about the Turkish guns. IMO, spending $500 (for example) will get you far more gun buying Turkish vs. Italian or U.S. made. Caniks are very well regarded. Don't have one but just about bought one based on everything I could read about them. Bought a Sarsilmaz; also a Turkish gun. The factory has been around for about 130 years, and they supply a large number of military guns. Very happy with mine. I bought a B6C. Stainless barrel, highly polished feed ramp, and fit together quite well.

I also hear very good things about the Girsans.

Norinco guns can be a good value, but some are decidedly lower quality than others. Norinco/Dominion Arms actually encompasses all the different factories that make guns in China, so you might want to research individual guns. The 1911 is decent; a little rough but an alright performer. Also have a Colt woodsman copy, which was one of the all time bargains of the century. Has a bit of a light strike, but then again I hear that is common for the original Colts, so how's that for a clone! Fixed that problem just by using CCI/Blazer ammo. The NZ 85 B is a really nice gun for the money as well. Some people can pick minor cosmetic flaws on them, but mine operates very well. Doesn't really like the very large meplat bullets though. To be fair, a lot of semis don't, and I didn't try modifying the feed angle, either. Also had a Tokarev copy. It was alright, but had a very heavy trigger, and not a very "nice" gun.
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The guys I shoot PPC with are all using 124gr. Campro plated hollow point; I just bought 1000 bullets, but have not reloaded any yet; I hope they will run in my NZ85; which bullets were you having issues with?
 
np22 for the win
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I purchased a budget 9mm a few years ago and am as happy as can be with it. The reason I wanted one was more or less to have a 9mm that worked and to shoot some IDPA or 3 gun with. After trying out a few different models I found i preferred the grip angle and controls of the 1911 so I ordered an NP-29 and 4 magazines for it from Tenda. I have shot several matches with it, cleaned it very little and it works very reliably for me. The only thing i wish i would have bought for it was some 10 round magazines versus the spare 9 round mags. Like I said i do action shooting and the extra round makes the difference as most of our stages shoot 10-20 rounds so I have an extra mag change. A fellow shooter has the 10 round mags and they work great.

Most new and seasoned shooters shoot S&W M&P's, SD9, Glock, CZ, and Norks. They all seem to shoot fine. I suggest the NP-29 since for me I have not had to do a thing to it and if something does break aftermarket parts are so easily sourced.
 
Meroh said:
The guys I shoot PPC with are all using 124gr. Campro plated hollow point; I just bought 1000 bullets, but have not reloaded any yet; I hope they will run in my NZ85; which bullets were you having issues with?
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Oops! I kind of misspoke, mine is actually an NP-40 in 40 S&W! If you are curious yet it is the Remington UMC enclosed base "lead free" (pretty sure that's not accurate, as it sure looks like a lead core) 180 gr. bullets. Very, very wide meplat. I don't think I've seen any other semi auto cartridge bullets with that big a flat before. Looks more like a big flat nose that would be more at home in a revolver.
 
My first 9mm was a S&W SD9VE... Great gun for the price.
I've seen them on sale at Cabela's for $360.
The only thing I didn't like was it has a really heavy trigger so I changed mine out for an Apex one... Then it was much nicer...

But I sold that and invested in a CZ Shadow 2 and my acuracy got waaaaaaay better...
 
I'd take a good look at the surplus Berretta 92 as well. Or some of the other good used guns. Had a Ruger P89 that I bought and sold cheap, too. Big 9mm, but slick, and probably last a lifetime of hard shooting.

For new, the S&W M&P are going pretty cheap. The 2nd version of these go for a bit more, but have a better trigger. I give the Ruger SR-9 a hard look too.
 
SFRC have the 9mm Girsan MC28 on sale for $299 right now. I just saw it on their website. Have a look at reviews and see what you think. Like I say, very happy with mine.

Edit: The Norinco Sig clones are also $299 there too.
 
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