Reasons for owning a dangerous game rifle in North America

"Reasons"??? Don't need no stinkin' reasons. :p

I am not familiar with the 375 H&H as far as rifles and cartridges go, but I like the look of the cartridge. Looks old school - like me! Way more attractive (imho) than the xyz super duper short magnums.

Jeez, now I'll be on the hunt for a .375 H&H. :cool:
 
Ardent said:
And yet it’s still composed of the same brass tube and cordite, I can certainly see the drastic revolution in technology in motion. ;) As for fitting in a standard action... Weatherby, Sako, Winchester, Remington, Zastava, Browning, Heym... all standard action .375 H&Hs. That argument has always seemed bizarre to me, it’s like claiming because the Chevy 350 fits in the Firebird it’s better than the Camaro. Which also fits the 350.
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Glad you mentioned cordite. That's why the H&H is the way it is, so they could use the now obsolete propellant cordite. An obsolete cartridge designed to use an obsolete propellant and that won't fit into all standard action rifles. Looking at the H&H case it really looks cobbled together compared to the 9.3x62 -a contemporary cartridge of the H&H. The H&H is tapered for the cordite strands which didn't leave much shoulder to headspace on so they added a belt to take care of their headspacing problem. Meanwhile the 9.3x62 has a case design that we more associate with a properly designed case.

Still a good second choice pick, of course.
 
Gatehouse said:
Glad you mentioned cordite. That's why the H&H is the way it is, so they could use the now obsolete propellant cordite. An obsolete cartridge designed to use an obsolete propellant and that won't fit into all standard action rifles. Looking at the H&H case it really looks cobbled together compared to the 9.3x62 -a contemporary cartridge of the H&H. The H&H is tapered for the cordite strands which didn't leave much shoulder to headspace on so they added a belt to take care of their headspacing problem. Meanwhile the 9.3x62 has a case design that we more associate with a properly designed case.

Still a good second choice pick, of course.
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But dam the 375 H+H is still and always be a very ###y old school round .
 
Figured you’d grab that bait. :d All in good fun, if I ever end up with an action that’s an 1/8” too short to comfortably seat out the .375 H&H I’d build a Ruger. Haven’t run into the problem yet, and when I built a new .375 in a smaller rifle my goal was actually less performance / velocity. I still haven’t found a creature here or Africa that needed another hundred fps, or could tell what shape the brass tube was that launched the same .375 pill with the same powder, all fired by the same primer for good measure. .375 H&H vs Ruger makes Ford vs Chevy appear based in significant scientific merit.
 
Reason #18 for owning a dangerous game rifle: you can argue away for years about which .375 is better, the H&H or the Ruger.

I like the .500 Jeffery. My reasons for owning it are that it is unique and fun. From cast bullets to BMG bullets to Safari bullets, they are all a riot. It is my most treasured and enjoyable gun.
 
propliner said:
Reason #18 for owning a dangerous game rifle: you can argue away for years about which .375 is better, the H&H or the Ruger.
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If CGN has taught us anything, it is that no experience is required in order to vehemently oppose the views of others, most of whom also have no experience, but maintain the equal and opposite vehemence... this is the great First law of CGN Physics.
 
I own a half a dozen dangerous game rifles. I have never been to Africa and likely never will. When asked why I own a 500 A Square, among others, I reference the video link below. Should a rampaging elephant escape the circus, I see myself stepping forward and saving the day.

It could happen.

https://youtu.be/F4IH-EqoHws
 
I bought a pretty old Sako AV in .375 H&H a while back and one day I was at the range when the guy to the left of me brought out his Tavor, along with about 18 10 round magazines. Then my friend I was there with brought out his ~14" barreled AR-15 also with a large number of 10 round magazines. I was trying to sight in and do a little practice with my 6.5x55 deer rifle at the time, but the sound of loud popcorn on both sides was kind of distracting. I put the Tikka back on the rack and grabbed the Sako out of the gun case, no one noticed. I threw a couple shells in my Shrewd muzzle braked Sako and let one go at the orange painted rock at 300.

Funny, the popcorn stopped immediately and they wanted to know what in the *&^% just happened :)

New reason.

I've only fired it once without hearing protection, I'll try to keep it that way but it sure is nice to shoot.
 
pacobillie said:
I went to a gun show on Saturday and saw a beautiful rifle chambered in 375 H&H at a decent price. I almost bought it, and have regretted not buying it since then.

I have no real need for such a rifle. I already own multiple rifles, that cover just about every type of hunting that I will likely ever undertake. But who says (other than liberals) that you should only have firearms that you need.

In order to rationalize such a purchase, I am curious as to how you could spin it.
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I would say to live life without regrets... So the fact that you regret not buying the rifle, pretty much says it all...

Much of modern life is not about 'needs', it's about 'wants'... And it is obvious you want that rifle!

The 375 H&H recoil is very manageable, and animals you hunt with it will most certainly be dead.

Cheers
Jay
 
ALFREDS said:
I own a half a dozen dangerous game rifles. I have never been to Africa and likely never will. When asked why I own a 500 A Square, among others, I reference the video link below. Should a rampaging elephant escape the circus, I see myself stepping forward and saving the day.

It could happen.

https://youtu.be/F4IH-EqoHws
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Is there another link to view this video without having to sign in to YouTube?
Thanks,
 
"When you need it and don't have it, you'll sing a different tune." Words of wisdom from Burt Gummer.

I picked up a new Zastava M70 in 375 H&H a couple years back from Tradex. excellent rifle for the money. At the time I got it, it really was about the novelty, and I thought "what the hell" given its affordable price... But I've used it more than I expected. I Mounted a Leupold 2.5-8x36 on Leupold QD mounts and a Custom Leather Canada 1907 sling. It's a solid minute and a half gun as far as I can tell (in less than ideal conditions). The caliber has been a blast to research and read about. I'm not so certain as to the age old claims of very little change in POA/POI over the variety of loads and projectiles for the 375 H&H. None the less, fact or fiction, it all just adds to the enjoyment of it.

As for the rifle, I've since had a look at new Winchester Model 70's both the Alaskan and the Safari Express in 375 H&H, as well as the Sako 85 Bavarian in the same. Although I'm a huge fan of both brands and own examples of them in other calibers, there's just something about that Zastava... I really like the traditional Mauser action on it. It offsets itself well in the safe beside the newer CRF designs, and stays interesting. It has the safety lug back by the bold handle which the newer stuff doesn't. I also bought a spare firing pin and claw extractor to pair along with it "just in case"... For what it is and for the money, and the fact that I've not had a single issue with it thus far, I really couldn't be happier with it. Now to start loading for it... I wish Lee still made the small loader kit for 375 H&H...
 
The best reason for getting a .375 is that it is very likely to Shanghai you and drag you off to Africa. If yours exhibits this type of behavior; resistance is futile.

Another reason is more practical. If you don’t have a .375 what exactly are you supposed to do if someone asks to see your .375? Oh sure, you can pretend you’re choking and run out of the room, but that only works once. After that you’ll just be standing there looking like you got caught trying to run a dog and pony show with no pony. It’s even worse if you’re married. Just imagine how embarrassed your wife would be if the truth came out. People would treat her with pity; perhaps to the point of giving her savages, bushnells , used articles of clothing and. small cash donations while uttering things like “ Oh honey, I had no idea that things were so bad, you should have called”. You can’t just think about yourself all the time. ;)
 
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Dogleg said:
The best reason for getting a .375 is that it is very likely to Shanghai you and drag you off to Africa. If yours exhibits this type of behavior; resistance is futile.

Another reason is more practical. If you don’t have a .375 what exactly are you supposed to do if someone asks to see your .375? Oh sure, you can pretend you’re choking and run out of the room, but that only works once. After that you’ll just be standing there looking like you got caught trying to run a dog and pony show with no pony. It’s even worse if you’re married. Just imagine how embarrassed your wife would be if the truth came out. People would treat her with pity; perhaps to the point of giving her savages, bushnells , used articles of clothing and. small cash donations while uttering things like “ Oh honey, I had no idea that things were so bad, you should have called”. You can’t just think about yourself all the time. ;)
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Bwuhahahahaha LoL. Alright that was a good one.
 
One of my .375 H+H rifles is a Remington Model 798 made by Zastava Serbia..
CRF.. not silky smooth but workable.. nice fit and finish
Nice to have the CRF
 
And then there is that wonderful feeling of superiority when you roll into an exploration camp in great bear habitat and all the other guys have pump 12 gauges or bolt action .303 or .308 rifles and I pull my .375 H&H 20" carbine with Express sights out of its case............
 
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