REMINGTON 700 - One of the Best All Around Rifles?

A question that hasn't been asked on this thread regarding Remington Arms and all those contracts issued to the world's police forces and Military branches for all those years to present day...

If the model 700 had all these so called issues,,, how come these contracts continue to carry on...

Wouldn't a person think that the power to be wouldn't put their Men and Women in harms way when dealing with a potential risk to life and limb...

Intresting indeed that next to nill of the model 700 have actually occurred from 1968 to 2020,,, 52 years of a positive track record one might think...

Would this be another reason that a company of 205 years holds its own...

Strange that most of these contracts are still going...

Cheers from the North
 
Did... we really just get to government contracts equating directly to the best choices? :popCorn: I find myself questioning government contract decisions rather than applauding them more often than not, maybe I’m the odd man out. The SEALs we had out this fall were able to elaborate at length on that, fortunately for them they weren’t constrained solely to the standard government supply chain.

For more than 20 years, Northwestern University researchers received National Institute of Health money to watch hamster fights. The project reportedly received more than $3 million over the course of the project and $306,000 in 2015 alone. Some of those experiments involved injecting hamsters with steroids, then putting another hamster in the cage to see if the drugged rodents were more aggressive when protecting their territory.
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Yes, that might be the case,,, so what was the feed back from them if I may ask... Unrestrained feedback is a good way to find out whats going on at the military and police level...

The Remington model 700 tests from Beryl Alaska to the Equator with multiple tests over 40+++ years is a fairly good test along with 52 ish years of service as these contracts continue world wide...

I'm only asking since I don't know...

How come that is """if"" Remington Arms is prone to all these failure from extractors that don't work,,, broken off bolt handles,,, and faulty triggers...

The police detachments around the globe would of reported millions apon millions of these cases along with all levels of the military branches that have those rifles in service from years ago to present day...

Again,,, it seems strange that no one asked this question why the model 700 rifle contracts,,, at least most of them are still intact...

Alot of the older models that have been in service for all those years could of been recertified and put back into service...

Purhaps the endless supply-chain of aftermarket parts keep them going...

Of course this brings up another question of what's in the services and what's not...

Most of us know that ### rifle contracts were cancelled due to continued issues in the test phases,,, would this speak volume to the powers to be,,, or is it like fake news...

The Army and Military protocol is fairly strict,,, governments don't seem to mind buying stuff now days that protect the Men and Women that use them...

We shoot along side of a few X-pats and retired Army personal including Police Force offerecers that attended practice sessions and even some long range shooting competions...

Some of them do and don't own Model 700 rifles for these matches... A personal choice for them since they get to pick and choose what they like...

Don't get me right or wrong,,, I own a few Remington rifles as I stated previously,,, but deep down inside I'm a Enfield dude since it was the very first rifle I owned...

Lots of head space,,, silky smooth bolt,,, and a fast action ammo clip to get the shots off,,, my hand me down 303 British is fairly accurate with the factory #4 stock and constant pull trigger...

The only thing that """I'm""" Not keen on is the iron sights since my vision is not the best these days,,, the curve of the rifle stock since my wrist won't bend now days,,, and rimmed case,,, my personal preference since I changed up to 308,,, 30/06,,, and 6.5 A-square...

Don't get me wrong,,, I could of had my #4 worked over to give me these benefits,,, but like my gun-smith friend said,,, do I really want to spend my funds in that direction,,, or is it worth my while to step it up a bit to own a few rifles I can offer to my next of kin or gift them to my shooting friends when the time comes...

Surely they would be thrilled to receive a quality rifle in-line with modern cartridges,,, or should I say old cartridges that stood the test of time... LOL...

Anyways,,, I think all of us on this thread would enjoy hearing the unrestrained comments from the military personal you were working with so we can all get a better handle of what their personal thoughts are regarding the Model 700...

The OP is on board with this since this is the reason he started this awesome thread in the first place...

Cheers from the North
 
Just to add to the above
Fix the link

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ht tps://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-armys-deadly-sniper-rifle-hiding-big-secret-26124


The Remington Model 700 is completely unrecognizable as the M2010 Enhanced Sniper Rifle, but the sleek, skeletal sniper weapon owes its existence to the classic hunting rifle found in homes across America. The ability to draw on a hunting weapon and turn it into not one but two sniper rifles is a testament to the Model 700’s excellent design.
 
The SEALs were interesting guys, one was a sniper went on to be a trainer in interesting gov’t services and the other works as a technical advisor now in the movie industry amongst other work that isn’t internet friendly. Naturally we talked guns and preferences as all good conversations between chronologically retarded individuals naturally go. At risk of inflaming previous tensions we’ll just leave it at the fellow who used my loner was happy to see a Ruger and not an M24/700, and we shared viewpoints. Their gun preferences for work are rather specific and don’t include anything the lot of us use or get angry defending.

The M24/700 is the bottom basement / lowest bidder sniper rifle in service, it and the 7.62x51 it fires are not what guys like them get excited about or rely on.
 
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“Remington 700. The 700 may be a very fine hunting rifle. I don't know because I've never used one, but I do know that it is a piss poor dangerous game rifle especially in .416 Rem caliber. Apart from the odd inexplicable misfire, a broken extractor cost us an elephant wounded and lost at Rifa. This is not the first year that I've seen a broken extractor on a Remington 700 in .416 either. In addition they are just about the hardest rifle to refill the magazine in a hurry. My memories this year of students and candidates using them is that of youngsters frantically trying to thrust cartridges into the mag, only to have a double feed, the rounds pop straight back out or many other problems. A two round reload took on average, twice as long with the Model 700's as it did with just about any other make of rifle. The difference between the Remington and the Weatherby is that the latter can be downloaded a little so as to operate flawlessly and the safety fixed, whilst I do not know that anything can be done with the Remingtons except to re-barrel them to a plains game cartridge and leave them at home when out after the dangerous stuff. To be fair though, all of the extraction problems seem to be confined to rifles in .416 and .375. and they seem reasonably reliable in .458 provided you are prepared to tolerate the awkwardness of the reload. I am not. A good single shot or even a Weatherby is a better choice.”

-Don Heath
 
chuck nelson said:
“Remington 700. The 700 may be a very fine hunting rifle. I don't know because I've never used one, but I do know that it is a piss poor dangerous game rifle especially in .416 Rem caliber. Apart from the odd inexplicable misfire, a broken extractor cost us an elephant wounded and lost at Rifa. This is not the first year that I've seen a broken extractor on a Remington 700 in .416 either. In addition they are just about the hardest rifle to refill the magazine in a hurry. My memories this year of students and candidates using them is that of youngsters frantically trying to thrust cartridges into the mag, only to have a double feed, the rounds pop straight back out or many other problems. A two round reload took on average, twice as long with the Model 700's as it did with just about any other make of rifle. The difference between the Remington and the Weatherby is that the latter can be downloaded a little so as to operate flawlessly and the safety fixed, whilst I do not know that anything can be done with the Remingtons except to re-barrel them to a plains game cartridge and leave them at home when out after the dangerous stuff. To be fair though, all of the extraction problems seem to be confined to rifles in .416 and .375. and they seem reasonably reliable in .458 provided you are prepared to tolerate the awkwardness of the reload. I am not. A good single shot or even a Weatherby is a better choice.”

-Don Heath
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Hey I read that article too!

I think if the 700 really sucked these $2000 actions wouldn't be based on them. I mean you don't see defiance saying "weatherby footprint yall!" Or M70 or M77 etc. My one and only 700 has the M16 extractor milled into it for reliability. As for reloading clearly the article forgets you can swap the bottom metal to a detachable box mag. Or is that not allowed in Africa? Chuck should know since hes been there.
 
Don Heath sounds like a twit, right there. But that's fairly standard when that stuff gets posted up.
And no, it doesn't matter who he is, or what he's done.
Any rifle could be handed to someone with no experience, and have loading it be an issue. Who "frantically trying to thrust cartridges into the mag" and expects zero issues.
It's been seen more often than not with CRF rifles, and ones with claw type extractors, than ones without. Frantic indeed.
R.
 
Rman said:
Don Heath sounds like a twit, right there. But that's fairly standard when that stuff gets posted up.
And no, it doesn't matter who he is, or what he's done.
Any rifle could be handed to someone with no experience, and have loading it be an issue. Who "frantically trying to thrust cartridges into the mag" and expects zero issues.
It's been seen more often than not with CRF rifles, and ones with claw type extractors, than ones without. Frantic indeed.
R.
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Wait now as a model 700 owner I am now quite concerned about losing another elephant LOL as most who use them here are now
Christ maybe I should sell mine now :)
 
Notice how the wounded elephant was blamed on the equipment. Not the shooter. I'm no elephant hunter but it would seem that hunting an animal like that someone should make certain of the first shot.
 
I love how we all get to twist our arguments and direct them specifically to discredit certain individuals who oppose us, and credit others who align with us. Then there’s the positioning, bolstering arguments with photos and experiences which I fully engage in too. Once the instigator feels secure more pointed shots can then be fired from that position, and incoming shots are deflected, ignored, or absorbed. It’s a fascinating social experiment in action, a forum, and gun preferences sure remind me of politics. Criticise another’s preference and brace for every vulnerability in the arguments to be probed systematically.

I think we can all agree Remington 700s work and also that they aren’t the be all and end all of rifles. As for Africa I’ve been several times for interesting things and haven’t seen a Remington 700 in use yet, I know they occur there in meaningful numbers but so do .45-70 exploits.
 
Thanks for the reply ardent, I enjoy the feed back ideas on the 700,,, mine have served me well in hunting and the 1 special 700 I own works fairly good at the shooting range... Of course my main target rifle is aloooot easier to work with since its purpose built...

There are many models of the 700 which is good since folks can pick the ones that might fit their shooting needs,,, of course every manufactor offers this...

Thanks to alot of the good folks that chimed in with helpful information as I Sloooooowly get another project underway,,, it will be another Model 700 since there fun to build off of...

Frugal funds,,, entertaining,,, and different after my friend does his magic... Ha

Cheers from the North
 
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