REMINGTON 700 - One of the Best All Around Rifles?

I heard roumers that the model 700 will harvest lots of furry critters that produce hoards of cheese burgers...

Yum Yum.

Cheers from the North
 
351 power said:
What was it about the 6mmPPC cartridge that needed the extractor change? Thanks
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It's head is larger than a .222 and smaller then a .308.

Some managed to use a .308 bolt face and simply bend the extractor out enough to grab the smaller case. Being used as a single shot it worked...
 
canadaman30 said:
I wasn't referring to just Canada. Sales numbers still don't make a product great..
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You can refer to the world it won't matter 5 million dude think about how many zeros there
. Maybe I am strange but if I BUY ONE AND IT GIVES ME TROUBLE and is trash I will COUTINUE TO BUY 10 More
Think about what you are saying not to mention this took place over many years so do you not think if junk or not great the word would have got out
Wait now I think I will go buy another Lada this year :)
 
guntech said:
It's head is larger than a .222 and smaller then a .308.

Some managed to use a .308 bolt face and simply bend the extractor out enough to grab the smaller case. Being used as a single shot it worked...
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But many rifles are built with conventional rounds and they still alter the extractor function of the bolt? That's not very reasonable.
 
3macs1 said:
You can refer to the world it won't matter 5 million dude think about how many zeros there
. Maybe I am strange but if I BUY ONE AND IT GIVES ME TROUBLE and is trash I will COUTINUE TO BUY 10 More
Think about what you are saying not to mention this took place over many years so do you not think if junk or not great the word would have got out
Wait now I think I will go buy another Lada this year :)
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Why do you think they sell cheaper model guns? Because they are and easier sell as more of the public can afford them. Its al about sales numbers and making money, why else do you think manufacturers have gone this route? Lots of people buy them and have zero problems. How many Remingtons have had problems?.. I'm not advocating anything just say sales numbers don't make a product great. How many millions have been return customers to Mc Donald's....lol. far from great food..Laugh2
 
canadaman30 said:
Why do you think they sell cheaper model guns? Because they are and easier sell as more of the public can afford them. Its al about sales numbers and making money, why else do you think manufacturers have gone this route? Lots of people buy them and have zero problems. How many Remingtons have had problems?.. I'm not advocating anything just say sales numbers don't make a product great. How many millions have been return customers to Mc Donald's....lol. far from great food..Laugh2
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Ya ok.
They sell cheaper guns since people today will not pay for quality. The world and the items in it are all disposable now :(
On Macdonalds tell that to to the 300 billion served like they care a few million has not returned
Have to run and blow snow with my 35 year old honda blower, sitting behind my 40 year old troy horse tiller next to my 68 SS impala. I for one always buy the best quality for what I can afford , take care of it and will have it a life time and the Remington 700 bdl fit that bill as did my very first new remington which I still own and bought in 1965 a new wingmaster

Do that with the trash out there today. NOT
 
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Interesting general read here IMO
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Move over AR: The Remington 700 has already claimed and proven itself as “America’s rifle.”
Why the Remington 700 is among the best bolt-actions ever designed:

ht tps://gundigest.com/rifles/the-remington-700
 
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I hesitated to include these observations as certain segments of the CGN community have seemed to take my criticism of the M700 as a personal attack. It’s just observation and a personal opinion, no attack on an individual or their preferences.

One thing I’ve found in outfitting is very few M700s show up for mountain and grizzly hunts. In five seasons, averaging between 8-15 hunters a season through, I think I’ve seen two though I can’t even recall what the first one was but believe it was a .300. One took a Grizzly (7 Mag, the 2nd I’d seen, and owned by the son of a prominent member here who had passed it down). That member now shoots classy customs and Gunwerks.

Doesn’t mean it’s not a decent rifle, but does indicate to me the hunters coming who generally can buy anything are rarely opting for 700s, and the couple that did arrive were generally old and familiar. Our crowd is focused on extremely physical backpack hunting and most hunt a lot, quite a few have multiple hunts a year all over the world in a schedule. Most common rifles are,

1. Custom, on everything from Fierce Ti actions, to BRNOs, to Gunwerks (I include them as customs)
2. European production rifles; Sako / Tikka, Merkel, Heym etc (this group is a close second to #1, and a surprising number of Tikka .270s and .270 WSMs show up)
3. Kimber / Forbes (Kimber much more than Forbes)
4. American production rifles (Ruger [the majority, and common in bear hunting, also my client loner last year was a 7x57 Ruger, biggest Grizz I guided died to a .375 Ruger Alaskan], Winchester, Remington)
5. Anything lever action (almost non-existent)

I do think there’s some statistical survivorship bias; the economic group these guys come from isn’t representative of the general population. Ultralights also all but rule out Remington, the Ti was close but exceedingly rare and never encountered one in a client’s hands though I owned one myself back in the day.
 
Ardent said:
I hesitated to include these observations as certain segments of the CGN community have seemed to take my criticism of the M700 as a personal attack. It’s just observation and a personal opinion, no attack on an individual or their preferences.

One thing I’ve found in outfitting is very few M700s show up for mountain and grizzly hunts. In five seasons, averaging between 8-15 hunters a season through, I think I’ve seen two though I can’t even recall what the first one was but believe it was a .300. One took a Grizzly (7 Mag, the 2nd I’d seen, and owned by the son of a prominent member here who had passed it down). That member now shoots classy customs and Gunwerks.

Doesn’t mean it’s not a decent rifle, but does indicate to me the hunters coming who generally can buy anything are rarely opting for 700s, and the couple that did arrive were generally old and familiar. Our crowd is focused on extremely physical backpack hunting and most hunt a lot, quite a few have multiple hunts a year all over the world in a schedule. Most common rifles are,

1. Custom, on everything from Fierce Ti actions, to BRNOs, to Gunwerks (I include them as customs)
2. European production rifles; Sako / Tikka, Merkel, Heym etc (this group is a close second to #1, and a surprising number of Tikka .270s and .270 WSMs show up)
3. Kimber / Forbes (Kimber much more than Forbes)
4. American production rifles (Ruger [the majority, and common in bear hunting, also my client loner last year was a 7x57 Ruger, biggest Grizz I guided died to a .375 Ruger Alaskan], Winchester, Remington)
5. Anything lever action (almost non-existent)

I do think there’s some statistical survivorship bias; the economic group these guys come from isn’t representative of the general population. Ultralights also all but rule out Remington, the Ti was close but exceedingly rare and never encountered one in a client’s hands though I owned one myself back in the day.
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Outfitting is a small cross section of successful hunters.
I watched Jim Shockeys hunter this week on tv hunting with a stainless model 700. I get a kick out of guys who link the gun to the type of hunter, or to the net worth of people. Or to their success.

Men with guns can be like women with purses. Meow.
 
Ardent said:
I hesitated to include these observations as certain segments of the CGN community have seemed to take my criticism of the M700 as a personal attack. It’s just observation and a personal opinion, no attack on an individual or their preferences.

One thing I’ve found in outfitting is very few M700s show up for mountain and grizzly hunts. In five seasons, averaging between 8-15 hunters a season through, I think I’ve seen two though I can’t even recall what the first one was but believe it was a .300. One took a Grizzly (7 Mag, the 2nd I’d seen, and owned by the son of a prominent member here who had passed it down). That member now shoots classy customs and Gunwerks.

Doesn’t mean it’s not a decent rifle, but does indicate to me the hunters coming who generally can buy anything are rarely opting for 700s, and the couple that did arrive were generally old and familiar. Our crowd is focused on extremely physical backpack hunting and most hunt a lot, quite a few have multiple hunts a year all over the world in a schedule. Most common rifles are,

1. Custom, on everything from Fierce Ti actions, to BRNOs, to Gunwerks (I include them as customs)
2. European production rifles; Sako / Tikka, Merkel, Heym etc (this group is a close second to #1, and a surprising number of Tikka .270s and .270 WSMs show up)
3. Kimber / Forbes (Kimber much more than Forbes)
4. American production rifles (Ruger [the majority, and common in bear hunting, also my client loner last year was a 7x57 Ruger, biggest Grizz I guided died to a .375 Ruger Alaskan], Winchester, Remington)
5. Anything lever action (almost non-existent)

I do think there’s some statistical survivorship bias; the economic group these guys come from isn’t representative of the general population. Ultralights also all but rule out Remington, the Ti was close but exceedingly rare and never encountered one in a client’s hands though I owned one myself back in the day.
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Cause that is how people that can roll in 2020 do like said above just like purses. ( sadly have a woman like that :() Last time I checked in US dollars plus 12% tax and you wonder why you don't guide guys with 700's
Go guide moose or deer hunting with average joe's in eastern canada and we will fill your truck with them. I am not poor but cannot afford to hunt with you sadly :(
Just my take

Cheers

Bighorn Sheep (also includes elk, mule deer, black bear, wolf and whitetail) $28,000 US
Grizzly Bear (also includes black bear) $17,950 US
 
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My other qualm with the 700 is standing in front of that safety as the guide, for all the safety briefings in the world you will get muzzle swept hunting grizzlies or mountains in the job. Many a 700 trigger gets home adjusted and many a 700 has had the safety turn into the sear after being ####ed with by the average joes. Even worse, blind mag ADLs that have to be cycled to unload, trusting that safety. It just ain’t for me and I don’t think any less of those who love them. But for me it all adds up to my least favourite bolt action to see in camp.
 
Buckmastr said:
... I get a kick out of guys who link the gun to the type of hunter, or to the net worth of people. Or to their success...
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Douglas was a fine example. He had the wealth to choose whatever he wanted, and the experience to know what worked and what didn’t. He probably killed a wider range of animals than anyone on CGN and in a wider range of habitats - yet he chose a 700 for most of it.
 
Ardent said:
My other qualm with the 700 is standing in front of that safety as the guide, for all the safety briefings in the world you will get muzzle swept hunting grizzlies or mountains in the job. Many a 700 trigger gets home adjusted and many a 700 has had the safety turn into the sear after being ####ed with by the average joes. Even worse, blind mag ADLs that have to be cycled to unload, trusting that safety. It just ain’t for me and I don’t think any less of those who love them. But for me it all adds up to my least favourite bolt action to see in camp.
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It is not love at least for me and many owners I know

It is what I can afford , trust and know it will do the job for me every time I use it for many many years and has proven that

This reminds me of when my mrs got into cameras and joined the club. Average set up and no one would talk to her
Upgraded a few times and now carries like 20 grand around her head and she is now everyone's bud
But what pics are published in the mags you guessed it the cheap 3500 set up took :)

The 700 fills the freezer just fine and is accurate enough for me on paper
 
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