.22 lr ELR ammo... this is going to be interesting.

Probably would be easier to reload .22 magnum as its inside lubricated & premade for higher pressures.
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.22 LR is barking up the wrong tree.

.22 mag has never been known for accuracy, but with lighter projectiles and faster powders and correct rifling, there could be a lot of room for improvement.
 
Anyone have info on this 22 rimfire with D headstamp?Cone shape lead bullet.
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.22 LR is barking up the wrong tree.

.22 mag has never been known for accuracy, but with lighter projectiles and faster powders and correct rifling, there could be a lot of room for improvement.

Still would be good enough for 100 yards which is what the vast majority of .22 Magnum users are doing.
 
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Handloader magazine back in the 80s or early 1990s published an article where solid copper or brass conical homemade bullets were tried in .22lr. They tested it on a nickel - blew right on through without too much of an indentation in the nickel, which you would usually expect if it even went through at all. I think they just used the powder charge which was in the ammunition. The article might be out there somewhere uploaded to the www.
 
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Part of the fun for .22LR for me is scaled long range training.

AND

The fact that .22LR ammo is much cheaper than say firing my .308 at the scaled distances. When you start buying hyper expensive .22LR to shoot long range, that's pretty much defeating ammo cost as an advantage.

Why even bother buying a .22LR rig when bullets are 50 cents each?
 
Part of the fun for .22LR for me is scaled long range training.

AND

The fact that .22LR ammo is much cheaper than say firing my .308 at the scaled distances. When you start buying hyper expensive .22LR to shoot long range, that's pretty much defeating ammo cost as an advantage.

Why even bother buying a .22LR rig when bullets are 50 cents each?

ive successfully shot cci sv out to 350 yards. 40$ for a brick. sure, not as consistent as eley or sk. but still pretty damn respectable
 
Their new rounds look a lot like my ELR 22mag rounds I have been making and shooting for 10 years. 50gn v-max pushed by lil gun powder. CA88CEB3-84C9-4A5C-88C4-3A92ACC0074B.jpg
 

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It is interesting to see the nose shape on those bullets. I'm surprised that they look a lot like modern centrefire bullets which are not likely the best shape for minimal wind drift.

In the black powder shooting world we have similar velocities ( start at ~1350 fps, mostly subsonic before 300 yards, and ~850 fps at 1000 yards ). Our bullet nose designs have been around for a long time and seem to be the quite optimal for reducing wind drift the transonic velocity ranges. Nome of the modern style noses work as well once you get transonic.

This is an example of the bullet type we use:

https://www.buffaloarms.com/459-540-grain-money-mini-grease-groove-1-cavity-cast-bullet-mould-jim459540m3


Chris.

Agreed.;) As fer .22LR use at distance or braining meat critters in close, I'm happy with the performance of the Aguila 60 gr subsonics. These hefty little pills at 950 fps MV shoot well from my Cooey 39 & my CZ 452 Scout, 452 Lux and 455 Ultra Match. Not dime size groups at 100 yds, but plenty tight at 50 yds on fridge filler or pests. Plopping gophers beyond 100 yds be easy enough with practice with this loading and it's got good wind bucking performance over me old favorite Rem Yellow Jacket squirrel pasters.

The Aguila 60's flanked by Stingers .
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It is interesting to see the nose shape on those bullets. I'm surprised that they look a lot like modern centrefire bullets which are not likely the best shape for minimal wind drift.

In the black powder shooting world we have similar velocities ( start at ~1350 fps, mostly subsonic before 300 yards, and ~850 fps at 1000 yards ). Our bullet nose designs have been around for a long time and seem to be the quite optimal for reducing wind drift the transonic velocity ranges. Nome of the modern style noses work as well once you get transonic.

This is an example of the bullet type we use:

https://www.buffaloarms.com/459-540-grain-money-mini-grease-groove-1-cavity-cast-bullet-mould-jim459540m3


Chris.

Agreed
also wonder about the bearing surface........ or lack of
 
Definitely more accurate than store bought rounds and hits a lot harder at extended ranges. The decrease in wind drift is the biggest gain.

What kind of results do you get with your ammo? Do you have anything more specific that could give an idea about how much "more accurate than store bought rounds" your ammo is?

50gn v-max pushed by lil gun powder.

Do you simply exchange the factory bullet with a Hornady 50 grain V-Max .224 bullet? Do you add more powder of some kind?

 
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