6.5 creedmoor etiquette / hunting ammo choice

I haven't shot it but there are reviews on Staball 6.5 showing that it isn't as temperature insensitive as claimed. Or marketed...
Sensitive. Like creedmoor fan boys.

Time will tell. I'm very happy with H4350, but it does occasionally have issues metering.
 
But.... But... But.... It's for the creed!..... It's developed for the creed and the creed is the third coming..... How can it not work? The marketing and the manbun team told me it would work....

Whether or not your gun likes a powder, isn't what gives the powder merit. I think you might be barking up the wrong tree.
 
Whether or not your gun likes a powder, isn't what gives the powder merit. I think you might be barking up the wrong tree.

I don't disagree..... Actually, i completely agree with that statement.....

For example, I own and have owned several 308 family rifles where h4895 is supposed to be "the powder".... It doesn't always work......

The difference being that, back in the day, h4895 was hailed by fellow shooters, and not by a manufacturer claiming it was a 308 based powder.....

There is nothing wrong with the 6.5 creed as a cartridge..... Likely nothing wrong with the Winchester powered they market as 6.5 creed powder either.....

It's just that I don't buy into everything that comes new to the market as making everything else in it's class obsolete..... Especially when a manufacturer makes a powder "for a cartridge"
 
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I don't disagree..... Actually, i completely agree with that statement.....

For example, I own and have owned several 308 family rifles where h4895 is supposed to be "the powder".... It doesn't always work......

The difference being that, back in the day, h4895 was hailed by fellow shooters, and not by a manufacturer claiming it was a 308 based powder.....

There is nothing wrong with the 6.5 creed as a cartridge..... Likely nothing wrong with the Winchester powered they market as 6.5 creed powder either.....

It's just that I don't buy into everything that comes new to the market as making everything else in it's class obsolete..... Especially when a manufacturer makes a powder "for a cartridge"

This is pretty much the same thing. Forum after forum of people screaming to the heavens about how great H4350 is for the 6.5 CM, to the point that it's being mandated in military contracts. Hodgdon literally can't make the powder fast enough, so Winchester did their best to copy the powder and make it in ball form in order to address the lone complaint of H4350. Now, how the powder will pan out in the real world remains to be seen, but as somone that loads H4350 in several cartridges (none of them 6.5CM) it's certainly captured my attention and I'll likely try some out once I can find load data I trust.
 
This is pretty much the same thing. Forum after forum of people screaming to the heavens about how great H4350 is for the 6.5 CM, to the point that it's being mandated in military contracts. Hodgdon literally can't make the powder fast enough, so Winchester did their best to copy the powder and make it in ball form in order to address the lone complaint of H4350. Now, how the powder will pan out in the real world remains to be seen, but as somone that loads H4350 in several cartridges (none of them 6.5CM) it's certainly captured my attention and I'll likely try some out once I can find load data I trust.

Hodgdon makes the Winchester powder apparently.
 
This is pretty much the same thing. Forum after forum of people screaming to the heavens about how great H4350 is for the 6.5 CM, to the point that it's being mandated in military contracts. Hodgdon literally can't make the powder fast enough, so Winchester did their best to copy the powder and make it in ball form in order to address the lone complaint of H4350. Now, how the powder will pan out in the real world remains to be seen, but as somone that loads H4350 in several cartridges (none of them 6.5CM) it's certainly captured my attention and I'll likely try some out once I can find load data I trust.

Nice.... Look forward to your results..... The biggest part of being a community is that we can share true results vs marketing hype.... I'm only interested in true results....
 
Nice.... Look forward to your results..... The biggest part of being a community is that we can share true results vs marketing hype.... I'm only interested in true results....

We'll see what happens, I'm to a point now that I've got my rifles pretty dialed in. I may not bother experiementing if I can manage to keep myself in H4350.
 
But.... But... But.... It's for the creed!..... It's developed for the creed and the creed is the third coming..... How can it not work? The marketing and the manbun team told me it would work....

Unbelievable. No one, and I repeat no one is saying it’s going to work for “your” CM. What is being said, is that the market is significant enough for Winchester to spend a great deal of money on a powder that will cater to it.
 
Nice.... Look forward to your results..... The biggest part of being a community is that we can share true results vs marketing hype.... I'm only interested in true results....

If you want “true results” why are you commenting on a cartridge you have never owned, shot, or loaded for?
 
This is pretty much the same thing. Forum after forum of people screaming to the heavens about how great H4350 is for the 6.5 CM, to the point that it's being mandated in military contracts. Hodgdon literally can't make the powder fast enough, so Winchester did their best to copy the powder and make it in ball form in order to address the lone complaint of H4350. Now, how the powder will pan out in the real world remains to be seen, but as somone that loads H4350 in several cartridges (none of them 6.5CM) it's certainly captured my attention and I'll likely try some out once I can find load data I trust.


I was doing RO duties yesterday on our 600 to 1,000 meter range, a friend who was shooting a 6.5 Creedmoor put 10 into just slightly less than 1MOA at 1K using the new ball powder, IIRC he was using 44 grains and a 140 ELDm bullet. The day was clear and 5 minutes of wind
The three rifles we have been using that load in shoot much flatter at 500 meters than H4350 inn their rifles and do it accurately, not that that means a lot but it is what it is.

There is data out now for the 6.5 StaBall for cartridges from the Dasher to the '06 that is impressive, but if they come out with some numbers for the 6mmBR they had better be stupendous to make me start using and replacing Varget in my little six!:rolleyes:
The boys that are shooting StaBall at our range are very happy with it
Cat
 
The three rifles we have been using that load in shoot much flatter at 500 meters than H4350 inn their rifles and do it accurately, not that that means a lot but it is what it is.

This is interesting. How much flatter is much flatter?
Of the three rifles, someone must have run a bullet over a chrony.
 
This is interesting. How much flatter is much flatter?
Of the three rifles, someone must have run a bullet over a chrony.

We first noticed it at 500 meters , right around 1.5 MOA.
never bothered with the chrongraph yet, I shoot my rifles from 100 to 500 meters and build my drop chart for 600 to 1,000 from there.
Works for me........
Cat
 
We first noticed it at 500 meters , right around 1.5 MOA.
never bothered with the chrongraph yet, I shoot my rifles from 100 to 500 meters and build my drop chart for 600 to 1,000 from there.
Works for me........
Cat

That's incredible. It turned the creedmoor it into a PRC.
 
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