Yeah, man. Those stupid idiots falling for a temperature insensitive ball powder.
Sure, and what happens if it doesn't work well for your rifle?......
Yeah, man. Those stupid idiots falling for a temperature insensitive ball powder.
I haven't shot it but there are reviews on Staball 6.5 showing that it isn't as temperature insensitive as claimed. Or marketed...
Sensitive. Like creedmoor fan boys.
Sure, and what happens if it doesn't work well for your rifle?......
Not use it?
But.... But... But.... It's for the creed!..... It's developed for the creed and the creed is the third coming..... How can it not work? The marketing and the manbun team told me it would work....
Whether or not your gun likes a powder, isn't what gives the powder merit. I think you might be barking up the wrong tree.
I don't disagree..... Actually, i completely agree with that statement.....
For example, I own and have owned several 308 family rifles where h4895 is supposed to be "the powder".... It doesn't always work......
The difference being that, back in the day, h4895 was hailed by fellow shooters, and not by a manufacturer claiming it was a 308 based powder.....
There is nothing wrong with the 6.5 creed as a cartridge..... Likely nothing wrong with the Winchester powered they market as 6.5 creed powder either.....
It's just that I don't buy into everything that comes new to the market as making everything else in it's class obsolete..... Especially when a manufacturer makes a powder "for a cartridge"
This is pretty much the same thing. Forum after forum of people screaming to the heavens about how great H4350 is for the 6.5 CM, to the point that it's being mandated in military contracts. Hodgdon literally can't make the powder fast enough, so Winchester did their best to copy the powder and make it in ball form in order to address the lone complaint of H4350. Now, how the powder will pan out in the real world remains to be seen, but as somone that loads H4350 in several cartridges (none of them 6.5CM) it's certainly captured my attention and I'll likely try some out once I can find load data I trust.
This is pretty much the same thing. Forum after forum of people screaming to the heavens about how great H4350 is for the 6.5 CM, to the point that it's being mandated in military contracts. Hodgdon literally can't make the powder fast enough, so Winchester did their best to copy the powder and make it in ball form in order to address the lone complaint of H4350. Now, how the powder will pan out in the real world remains to be seen, but as somone that loads H4350 in several cartridges (none of them 6.5CM) it's certainly captured my attention and I'll likely try some out once I can find load data I trust.
Hodgdon makes the Winchester powder apparently.
Nice.... Look forward to your results..... The biggest part of being a community is that we can share true results vs marketing hype.... I'm only interested in true results....
There's other FAD powders too that do WORK ! Leverevolution - Superformance - CFE223 Give 6.5STABAL a Chance - It will prob work WELL in lots of different cartridges ! jmo RJ
But.... But... But.... It's for the creed!..... It's developed for the creed and the creed is the third coming..... How can it not work? The marketing and the manbun team told me it would work....
Nice.... Look forward to your results..... The biggest part of being a community is that we can share true results vs marketing hype.... I'm only interested in true results....
This is pretty much the same thing. Forum after forum of people screaming to the heavens about how great H4350 is for the 6.5 CM, to the point that it's being mandated in military contracts. Hodgdon literally can't make the powder fast enough, so Winchester did their best to copy the powder and make it in ball form in order to address the lone complaint of H4350. Now, how the powder will pan out in the real world remains to be seen, but as somone that loads H4350 in several cartridges (none of them 6.5CM) it's certainly captured my attention and I'll likely try some out once I can find load data I trust.
The three rifles we have been using that load in shoot much flatter at 500 meters than H4350 inn their rifles and do it accurately, not that that means a lot but it is what it is.
This is interesting. How much flatter is much flatter?
Of the three rifles, someone must have run a bullet over a chrony.
We first noticed it at 500 meters , right around 1.5 MOA.
never bothered with the chrongraph yet, I shoot my rifles from 100 to 500 meters and build my drop chart for 600 to 1,000 from there.
Works for me........
Cat
That's incredible. It turned the creedmoor it into a PRC.




























