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BCreserveMP said:
The reason the people of Afghanistan bury invading army after invading army is because they have nothing to lose.

Generally when people take up arms against an invader or tyrant it's because they have nothing. No food, no clean water, no freedom of movement, religious oppression, etc. You think the average Canadian - even the average Canadian gun owner - is in anything close to the same situation? Most people aren't going to risk anything for a couple of guns.

Meanwhile in Canada we have abundant food and gasoline, multiple cable channels, clean air and water, infinite internet ####, limitless shopping options, freedom of religion, inexpensive schools and healthcare, and copious lines of credit. Who - including Trustme - is going to risk all that for a gun or two?

Nobody is going to take up literal arms about this. Nobody is going to secede from the country. But what we can do it litigate and educate for two years. And maybe, that way, we can win.
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I agree with mostly. And you're right, I'm not one to risk all, but then again I feel its incumbent on all free people to allow for the display of the willingness of people to hold our betters accountable at any cost. Calling people retards, and morons for expressing just the willingness to stand up to dictatorial government policy disguised as a public safety measure, during a nation wide restriction of the right to assemble while simultaneously preventing parliamentary discourse an error in logic and a misunderstanding of how quickly the world can change. Even with endless distractions like ####, shopping, and television, S can HTF. thats it. it doesn't have to be ISIS, or Bin laden or the anuakki or what ever. it can be a solar flare or earthquake, our society is as fragile as the snowflakes that run it.


I like society the way it is, even with all the liberal quarks and weirdos. I just know 'Mastah needs to know that I'm a good slave' doesn't always prevent the beatings either.
 
Bagels said:
I get it but doing nothing is worse. These orgs are here for what exactly if not to stand up for gun rights? the NRA would go ballsitic(pun intended) if something like this happened in the US. Now like i said before, we arent the US and these orgs are not big like NRA is BUT they are OUR NRA and thewy do nothing
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I hear what you're saying. I agree it's worth a shot (pun intended).

But the CCFR and the NFA need to work together, and they won't.

I grudgingly support the NFA every year, knowing full-well that ______ will attend meeting ill-prepared, sometimes with dubious information, and generally not make us look good.

These guys should have hired a PR firm years ago. Rod and Tracy are excellent speakers but they aren't pros. You can't go in front of today's media without a solid education on how to address the media.
 
HammerHand said:
"The Regulations and the Amnesty Order come into force on the day they are made. The Amnesty Order expires on April 30, 2022."

We've got just under 2 years to get the Fiberals out of office. We need to get to work.
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That’s very correct. However, when election time comes - our gunnies here will fight again against each other here „which political Party to vote on” and some of them will even vote on Liberals or help Liberals to win election by spliting votes and voting on a Party that has no chances to win the election. All this like happen last year during an election period.
This is the country of fools.
 
This is what CPC Candidate and member of Parliament,Derek Sloan, said today about the gun grab :

"Once again, Justin Trudeau is pouncing on an opportunity to push his ideological agenda in making major changes to firearms policy that won’t make Canadian safer, but will increase state invasiveness into the lives of law-abiding citizens.

Justin Trudeau is using a national tragedy to scapegoat law-abiding gun owners.

Team Trudeau has made it clear throughout this pandemic that they don’t respect the essential democratic role of Parliament.

Now they are using the current pandemic and the immediate emotion of the horrific attack in Nova Scotia to push through policy that won’t receive the scrutiny it deserves.

The RCMP has made it clear that the Nova Scotia shooter did not have a firearms license, so all of his guns were illegal.

Seizing firearms from Canadians who obey the law does nothing to stop dangerous criminals who obtain their guns illegally.

Money used in any buy-back effort would be better spent on support for police and anti-gang units, action against rural crime and policing our borders to stop the smuggling of the illegal weapons that are used in most gun crimes in Canada.

I believe that the ownership and use of firearms for protection is a civil right, and I will approach all firearms legislation guided by that principle.

I will conduct a complete review of the Firearms Act and related regulations to safeguard the right of firearms owners to their private property. Legislation that has not proven to be beneficial to public safety should be repealed.

Like any real Conservative, I’m committed to firearms legislation that ensures Canadians remain safe and secure in their homes and communities, not opportunistic gun grabs that concentrate more power in the hands of the state.

If you agree, please consider supporting me as I stand for Conservatism, without apology."

Let's vote him in, he is the one that gives out best vibes when it comes to protecting our values. He accepted to be publically interviewed by NFA and has a firm stand on firearms right in Canada.
 
Trudeau is killing the economy and now he’s killing gun nutz.

Depression is coming.

CAD lost 2% today...
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but has anyone stopped to think about how big of an impact this is going to have on our gun stores/site sponsors? There's a few that I can think of that mainly focus on these now banned guns, and I am sure this is a big blow to them. Doesn't the government realize that the Canadian gun industry is a good chunk of change? Now with this huge blow to it, there'll be impacts on jobs as well as money being put back into our already fragile economy?
 
goober23 said:
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but has anyone stopped to think about how big of an impact this is going to have on our gun stores/site sponsors? There's a few that I can think of that mainly focus on these now banned guns, and I am sure this is a big blow to them. Doesn't the government realize that the Canadian gun industry is a good chunk of change? Now with this huge blow to it, there'll be impacts on jobs as well as money being put back into our already fragile economy?
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I hear you. And they might not be able to get CARES.

Trudeau robbed all of us of money. We can’t even sell our guns if we needed food.
 
cras111 said:
That’s very correct. However, when election time comes - our gunnies here will fight again against each other here „which political Party to vote on” and some of them will even vote on Liberals or help Liberals to win election by spliting votes and voting on a Party that has no chances to win the election. All this like happen last year during an election period.
This is the country of fools.
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Yuuuuup... and somewhere on this board, TODAY, I still saw someone pushing the PCC.

Forget the PCC. All conservatives need to unite. All gun owners need to unite. Even if that means holding your nose with one hand and marking your ballot with the other. We have two years. The smelter is waiting.
 
goober23 said:
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but has anyone stopped to think about how big of an impact this is going to have on our gun stores/site sponsors? There's a few that I can think of that mainly focus on these now banned guns, and I am sure this is a big blow to them. Doesn't the government realize that the Canadian gun industry is a good chunk of change? Now with this huge blow to it, there'll be impacts on jobs as well as money being put back into our already fragile economy?
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Read the end of the OiC. They mention the economic impact, and the effect on a 1.8 billion dollar sporting goods/sport shooting industry. Their response to that impact study was, if you'll excuse me for paraphrasing, "¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

Coles note: they don't care about the workers and businesses. They view them with the same disdain you'd view with the organizers of a dog-fighting circuit.

Remember, this government things anyone who owns a gun is a mass-murder-in-waiting.
 
I haven't read the thread thru, although the OP makes the subject clear. I looked at the planned list of possibly prohibited firearms. I own several of these "possibly prohibited" . All I can say, is they are not for sale. Not to you, the government, or anyone. It is a hobby of mine, a passion, and I love my light rifles for hunting and sport shooting. Also, yes...home defense!
Flame away if you will, my anxiety is based upon the current Government that is dedicated to take away my free will.
And yours.
 
HammerHand said:
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..."Whether at home or abroad, the deadliest mass shootings are commonly perpetrated with assault-style firearms. These events, and concerns about the inherent deadliness of assault-style firearms used in them, have led to increasing public demand for measures to address gun violence and mass shootings in Canada."...
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It is outright disinformation. The FBI has been compiling stats on mass shootings since the early 1980s. So-called "assault rifles" (meaning semi-auto long guns with detachable magazines) appear in less than 1/3 of these events. The most common firearm used is a handgun. In fact more handguns are used in mass shootings than in all other types of firearms combined. Up until Las Vegas, the worst body count in a mass shooting was Virginia Tech, which was one guy with only two handguns.

It's really easy to look that up. You know, if you were interested in telling the truth.

The skill and determination of the shooter are far more significant factors than the kind of firearm used. Every time.

It's been a spurious, fear and ignorance driven argument from Day One, using hyperbolic language like "...designed to hunt humans..."
 
Christopher Tennant said:
You can only sustenance hunt if you are native. Doesn't apply to everyone else.
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Not the way I read it,

“ Other permitted activities during the amnesty period are to transport the firearm for any of the above purposes and to use the newly prohibited firearm, if previously non-restricted, to hunt for the purposes of sustenance or to exercise a right recognized and affirmed by section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982 (the Constitution).”

There is an “or” there between everyone and Natives...

In addition, the Natives have their own paragraph a couple of sections later where there is mention that there will be consultations to determine if they can continue to use previously non-restricted but now prohibited firearms after the amnesty period.
 
The grip of communism is upon us. Happy May Day from your communist leaders.
Can we somehow ship our firearms to the USA? and keep in a safe box or anything ? Just so Ill have them when I move to the land of the free.
 
Dreaded Platypus said:
Not the way I read it,

“ Other permitted activities during the amnesty period are to transport the firearm for any of the above purposes and to use the newly prohibited firearm, if previously non-restricted, to hunt for the purposes of sustenance or to exercise a right recognized and affirmed by section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982 (the Constitution).”
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Hmm. I can see a scenario where Bloggins takes his Mini-14 onto Crown Land to hunt but comes out of the woods-empty handed and straight into the path of an overzealous CO who says Bloggins was only target shooting.
 
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