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Hey guys, this just popped up when I tried to log into the RCMP business portal.
There is not much new here, but at least it is from horses mouth sort to speak and it is a good official summary.
Pleas do read other posts on CGN on the ongoing efforts for the advocacy and how to help fight back these changes.
This is just for reference as it is not always easy to navigate the RCMP Firearms program website:

RCMP -- What you need to know about the Government of Canada’s new prohibition on certain firearms and devices
 
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They still haven't addressed restricted transfers that were initiated before the prohibitions came into effect. This definitely effects private sales where the money has already changed hands and the parties were simply waiting on the slow wheels of bureaucracy to catch up. Has there been official documentation that addresses this?
 
**Exceptions are included under the Amnesty Order to allow for the continued use of the newly-prohibited firearms and/or devices (if previously non-restricted) by individuals who hunt or trap to sustain themselves or their families, and by Indigenous persons exercising Aboriginal or treaty rights to hunt. At the end of the amnesty period, all firearm owners must comply with the new law.
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The language identifies A second group that is covered here, distinct from those with treaty and aboriginal rights
In court the The government must prove that those people (Individuals) who are hunting or trapping are not sustaining themselves to prove illegality.

Courts rules on reasonability and it would be reasonable to see harvesting of resources as a method of Sustaining ones self and Family
The Federal government cannot define any persons accumulation of sustenance, Food security is protected under the right to life.
The provision to hunt is granted to every citizen by the province and the metric is defined under licenced hunting and trapping regulation


Thereby the OIC wording you would not be violating it provided you were following the provincial regulations,(caliber) choice would be precluded.

 
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weldboss said:
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It was always written that way in the OIC. It just wasn't worded as clearly, but it was there, which is why I never understood the claims of discrimination....
 
love this part:

Individuals

Owners of newly prohibited firearms and devices are to keep them securely stored in accordance with their previous classification. The Display, Storage, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (the Regulations) are available on the Department of Justice website.
Newly prohibited firearms cannot be used for sport shooting, either at a range or elsewhere.

and the new OIC is prefaced with:

Whereas the Governor in Council is not of the opinion that any thing prescribed to be a prohibited firearm or a prohibited device, in the Annexed Regulations, is reasonable for use in Canada for hunting or sporting purposes;
 
weldboss said:
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Not trying to derail the conversation, but I honestly just had a question occur to me. Is it normal to say that some laws in a particular area apply to Aboriginals while others do not? How can the government defend distinguishing ones that apply vs. ones that do not? For example, if they are now allowed to own prohibited weapons deemed to be too dangerous to be in the hands of our most trusted and vetted citizens; how does the government propose to distinguish between which prohibited weapons are ok and which are not? Can an aboriginal person now own any prohibited weapon? Did we just give them all 12.x status? Do we need a new class of prohib? Aboriginal Prohib..... How far down the rabbit hole do they intend to take this?
 
Bartok5 said:
It was always written that way in the OIC. It just wasn't worded as clearly, but it was there, which is why I never understood the claims of discrimination....
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There is discrimination because if you are non aboriginal you must be a subsistence hunter to continue using your now prohibited rifle to hunt; if you are aboriginal, you can use your prohibited rifle to hunt. HUGE difference, with massive institutionalized bias against non aboriginals.
 
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Not trying to derail the conversation, but I honestly just had a question occur to me. Is it normal to say that some laws in a particular area apply to Aboriginals while others do not? How can the government defend distinguishing ones that apply vs. ones that do not? For example, if they are now allowed to own prohibited weapons deemed to be too dangerous to be in the hands of our most trusted and vetted citizens; how does the government propose to distinguish between which prohibited weapons are ok and which are not? Can an aboriginal person now own any prohibited weapon? Did we just give them all 12.x status? Do we need a new class of prohib? Aboriginal Prohib..... How far down the rabbit hole do they intend to take this?
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There are two sets of laws in this country. One set for canadians, and one set for indians. The courts even hand out sentencing differently if the person in front of the judge is an indian or a canadian. It's been this way forever.
 
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There are two sets of laws in this country. One set for canadians, and one set for indians. The courts even hand out sentencing differently if the person in front of the judge is an indian or a canadian. It's been this way forever.
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And despite all of this, the natives are still massively over represented in the prison population. 67% of those accused of homicide are native, with up to 60% of victims being again, native.

There is something seriously wrong with this country and its not legal firearms owners.
 
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

Adolph Hitler, 1935
 
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