same load different groups???

[Buckmastr]

I have. Results above.
Literally 1 shot out of the 6 chrono’d wasn’t the exact same velocity.

Perfect. Now increase the neck tension or crimp them.

 

[Tokay444]

Perfect. Now increase the neck tension or crimp them.

Been there. Done that. Load goes to absolute ####. Kinda like your example.

 

[Buckmastr]

Been there. Done that. Load goes to absolute ####. Kinda like your example.

Talk is cheap. I see you like to talk a lot.

 

[Tokay444]

I load and shoot a lot too.
Burnt out 3 barrels since this time last year.

 

[Buckmastr]

I load and shoot a lot too.

Cookie?

 

[Tokay444]

No thanks. I’m sugar free.

 

[B]

Perfect. Now increase the neck tension or crimp them.

I'm not meaning to argue but I have issues with guys speaking in absolute terms. None has even said what powders they are using but you say neck tension or crimp doesn't affect ballistics. Based on... Your little bit of testing?? With how many powders? Which powders?

 

[Buckmastr]

I'll test some more. But not with a handgun.

 

[B]

I'll test some more. But not with a handgun.

I literally said nothing about handguns. H110 was a mere example and it's used for rifle and shotgun as much as handguns.

 

[Lead hammer]

To the OP, if your old load was towards the end of a node, new powder and or brass may put you behind or ahead of the shooting node and into a scatter node. Just retest.

 

[todbartell]

Just get a 270

 

[Tokay444]

Or better yet, a 284.

 

[Tokay444]

But seriously, it’s the brass.

 

[MTM]

To the OP, you changed brass and powder lots. Can’t do that bud, you need to start over. There. Haha

 

[trapoholic]

Sorry trapoholic

No worries

I'm not meaning to argue but I have issues with guys speaking in absolute terms. None has even said what powders they are using but you say neck tension or crimp doesn't affect ballistics. Based on... Your little bit of testing?? With how many powders? Which powders?

Reloder 16

To the OP, if your old load was towards the end of a node, new powder and or brass may put you behind or ahead of the shooting node and into a scatter node. Just retest.

Reworking as we speak

 

[RangerPark]

So you're using two different lot numbers of the same brass with two different charge weights and getting the same accuracy and velocity? Am I interpreting that correctly?

I got my Nosler brass from loaded Trophy Grade ammo. I bought 5 boxes on sale that were cheaper than buying the components separately. Didn't think about checking lot numbers until I started troubleshooting poor accuracy in my reloads. The end result was almost 2 grains of powder difference for the same speed.

I gave up on that and ended up using one lot of brass for 160 gr Accubonds and the other for 150 gr Accubonds LRs.

I couldn't believe the lot to lot variance in the Nosler brass. Very consistent within the same lot though.

 

[Tokay444]

Does Lapua make brass for 30-06?
If yes, use Lapua.
If no, switch to a different cartridge.

 

[Buckmastr]

Lapua is great brass but for a hunting rifle you can do just fine with W-W or Remington. No need to get carried away here.

 

[trapoholic]

Just get a 270

Wanna fight?

Does Lapua make brass for 30-06?
If yes, use Lapua.
If no, switch to a different cartridge.

Seriously thinking about buying lapua brass. I want consistency every time, not sometimes.

 

['Boo]

Seriously thinking about buying lapua brass. I want consistency every time, not sometimes.

I don't think anyone asked about your bullets in this thread. Were your new loads made using bullets from the same lot as the earlier ones?